Joe Bfstplk
Legend!
I always do.Speak for yourself
I always do.Speak for yourself
My point with the Marshall reference was simple for the OP.....things are not always fair....quit your bitching and stop being a troll.
I think it's obvious that you're talking out of your ass. Neither one of us is privy to the distribution agreement between Fractal and G66, .... Either way, I'd say put up or shut up. If you're convinced you can offer the same service as G66 for lower prices, contact Fractal and offer to take over the EU distribution. Otherwise, unless you've seen G66s books and know their margins, stop with the unsubstantiated accusations because that only leads to more uninformed people like OP complaining here because they don't know how VAT works.
Well, throwing out exactly zero data points when you're posting unsubstantiated accusations gets you labelled a troll. Especially when the only thing you've given to support your accusations is your alleged 30 years of experience. And attempting to dismiss data points given in response to your posts by calling them a strawman doesn't help either.Throwing out a very limited set of data points (the ones you understand and accept) and a ton of white noise and ad hominem attacks gets you waved off and dismissed.
G66 price is currently 2599€G66 price-2799 euros =£2414.00
Ah! That great Fractal Forum Member réputation of the dishonest and disingenuous name-calling interlocutors floats to the surface of the pond again!
No thanks, angry erectors of strawmen. Your game will not be taken up. I’ve near 30 years in this industry. I’ve negotiated countless internationally based distribution deals in this industry. I DO know what is going on. I’ve seen this scenario (and enacted change) many times in the EMEA sphere. There is nothing unique here.
Throwing out a very limited set of data points (the ones you understand and accept) and a ton of white noise and ad hominem attacks gets you waved off and dismissed.
Défend the tribe. Accept the status quo. Never improve.
Just done some checks on this:
$1999=£1564.00
Add UK Duty @ 4.5% (From HMRC Website)=£70.00
Shipping=£85.00
Total £1790.00 + VAT at 20% =£2062.00
G66 price-2799 euros =£2414.00
Premium paid= £362.00 or $462.00
If the pricing was on a level playing field, then you can have my order for an Axe FX3 now.
yeah, FAS is really struggling after a dozen years ... a stringer like you pimpin’ unsolicited mgmt. consulting advice ... lol
Have you ever built anything of and on your own, from the ground up to half the success of FAS?
Pls?So the mods can safely close this thread.
A few small corrections.
You HAVE to add the 3 years warranty to the price to have a fair comparrison. It is not possible to sell without warranty in EU by law.
You also have to add warranty and shipping before customs fee.
So 1999 + 250 ( warranty) + 50 shipping (roughly) = 2300$
2300 + 4,5% customs fee = 2400$
2400 + 19% VAT = 2860$ = 2600€
I would say the price is on a level playing field.
Yes, Customs fee and VAT might suck, but there is no legal way arround it.
If you have a VAT number you can off course buy without paying VAT.
Still exercising to burn those extra calorieseveryone is still forgetting the chocolates in the math(s)
Ill-informed ad hominem gets you nowhere but does reveal how you reckon with the world. Incidentally, you embarrass yourself. The answer to the 2nd question is “Yes”.