Building an expensive modeler is easy, they say

Boss released the Waza Air headphones that do the room sim and the tracking. I’ve never tried them though.
goodwill559 said:
speaking of plexi59's idea of bedroom practice, I'd like a solution that takes into account my head shape, where the guitar amp sits in space relative to me and adjusts the sound as i move and turn my head so it sounds more real when wearing headphones
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$400 but great reviews on Sweetwater. Intriguing, I’ll have to check this out. I do wish this wasn’t “air” though. I’d rather clip a gyro sensor to my existing headphones.
 
plexi59 said:
That’s interesting. Has anyone tried this? Looks like they have a device to clip onto the headphones to track the position. This could actually work - there’s really nothing impossible about it.
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I've tried the one which simulates an Abbey Road studio but without the head-tracking device, I manually turned around in the virtual room.
It's pretty convincing in giving a sense of space and cool to listen to 5.1 music on headphones. It might work also to give an "amp in the room" feel while playing, I haven't tried that.
But I wouldn't rely on that to do some serious mixing or mastering.
 
plexi59 said:
That’s interesting. Has anyone tried this? Looks like they have a device to clip onto the headphones to track the position. This could actually work - there’s really nothing impossible about it.
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I have the Waves NX Head Tracker on my Beyerdynamic 880 Pro Headphones. I purchased the bundle w/the Abbey Roads Studio 3 collection ($129 for the bundle). It tracks your head movement for stereo, 5.1 and 7.1 surround. Also, it allows you to listen/mix to near, mid, or far field simulations. Does a great job for the money!

It is a plugin, so, I had to run it in a DAW. Also, it does only support specific headphones, as they only offer EQ correction for a dozen or so headphones.
 
plexi59 said:
That’s interesting. Has anyone tried this? Looks like they have a device to clip onto the headphones to track the position. This could actually work - there’s really nothing impossible about it.
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One of those sorta works things, as it's unnatural unless you compensate for your own individual HRTF and headphone-pinnae transfer function. A product called Realiser A16 actually seems to do it right, but it's expensive and laborious. You need to borrow a good listening room, put measurement microphones in your ear, and take IRs with speakers then take IRs with headphones. Then the $4k DSP machine does its thing to head track and compensate to give a virtual space.
 
I don’t need perfect though. “Doesn’t make me want to stab myself in the ears after an hour” level of performance would be a good start.
 
plexi59 said:
I don’t need perfect though. “Doesn’t make me want to stab myself in the ears after an hour” level of performance would be a good start.
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Early reflection stuff from FAS cab or reverb block does that for me. Depending on the HRTF these generic head tracking room sims use, it might be a bad match for your ears and make it worse, one of those uncanny valley type things.
 
I really really really don't understand the obsession with amp in the room feel. One moment everybody is clamoring to sound like their favorite guitarist X on classic album Y, even though you're hearing a miked amp going through endless layers of studio trickery and magic in a full mix. Then they get that sound from our favorite black box and then it's yeah, but I want it to sound like an amp in the room too.

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Well, I am working for the company, that patents has expired few years ago, but 30 years of being ahead - we have to give up on simple applications, but no one can compete in the real ones... That is I love in Fractal - not the cheapest, but fully supported and client friendy. BTW. filtaration of 1 micrometer solid parts is easy they say... But who else can do it? In the industrial scale?...
 
LOL What a sham. BEIT-800. Hysterical.

People will be dumb enough to buy it though. Same people that are dumbe enough to buy this cheap Amazon chinese motorcycle and expect it to be good (it's not): X-PRO 125cc Motorcycle Adult Gas Motorcycle Dirt Motorcycle Street Bike Motorcycle Bike Full Assembeld(Red) Visit the X-PRO Store

Sure some people will buy it for a goof or to do a YouTube video about it, but there's a lot of suckers out there. And this company will reference "fractal" and a bunch of other keywords to make it bubble up to the top of a web search.
 
Muad'zin said:
I really really really don't understand the obsession with amp in the room feel.
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It's just for comfort when practicing in headphones, which with my wife's "migraines" I find myself doing a lot recently. Hearing so keen, she can "hear" bedroom-volume monitors through two floors of the house while on the opposite end of it. I suspect migraines would go away if a young, good looking female neighbor moved in next door, so maybe that's the thing to really aim for here. :tearsofjoy:
 
Im a little slow but are we talking about cheap knock offs for guitar modeling? If so remember what I have always said since I was 18 yo back in 1628 "You always get what you pay for" $50 modeler will sound like its $50.00 (my apologies for international monetary sensitive individual's) please substitute $ for your monetary symbol
 
plexi59 said:
It's just for comfort when practicing in headphones, which with my wife's "migraines" I find myself doing a lot recently. Hearing so keen, she can "hear" bedroom-volume monitors through two floors of the house while on the opposite end of it.
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I use headphones too. I live in an apartbuilding so if I want to rock late at night without angry neighbors at my door, being the considerate neighbor that I am, headphones are the best solution. Never EVER have I felt the need that when I change position the sound should change as well. I want it to change the same wherever I am.

plexi59 said:
I suspect migraines would go away if a young, good looking female neighbor moved in next door, so maybe that's the thing to really aim for here. :tearsofjoy:
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Yeah, as the pickup artists say, dread game does wonders for a woman's behavior towards you. Mind you, they also say you can't keep that up forever though.
 
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