I agree. He started Fractal because he had a better idea how to do this stuff, he continually checks the way the algorithms work and finds ways to improve them, even when people are telling him they're already great. Cygnus is a good example since Ares 15.1 is a really good sound, but he found some things in the way it behaved that didn't seem right, and started recoding.Actually, yes, I do. Granted, I know Cliff only from the product and posts here. But, imho, he shows someone who is out to find modelling perfection, on it's own accord.