Axe-Fx Xl displaying weird values

MisterE

MisterE

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I noticed my Axe-Fx sometimes displays weird values:
Pitch block Y was programmed as "INTEL HARM" but when activating it it shows "TREMOLO"
When switching between X and Y it goes back to "INTEL HARM"

Scale "2.1 dB"
track mode "0.0"

So far I only noticed this in the Pitch block.
 
Synth2 block (global)
Level shows 64.6% - Axe Edit: -16.0dB
Synth1 block (global)
Level shows 100% - Axe Edit: -16.0dB
 
This is a major issue and I would like it to be solved ASAP.
Yesterday at a gig I couldn't change a lot of the parameters I needed.
These included block levels of the synths and volume/pan.
I use the volume/pan to adjust my boost for leads.
By making it global, I only have to adjust it once and it's set for all presets.
I couldn't adjust it so that was a big issue for me.
 
Are you saying this an Axe-Edit issue? If so, you need to post that in the proper forum.
 
No it isn't.
I wasn't using Axe-edit.
When I'm using Axe Edit, it displays the correct values but the Axe-Fx Xl does not.
Even when I'm not using Axe Edit, the wrong values are displayed on the XL.
 
Synth2 block (global)
Level shows 64.6% - Axe Edit: -16.0dB
Synth1 block (global)
Level shows 100% - Axe Edit: -16.0dB
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Correction: both synth blocks are not global blocks.
And I'm an idiot.
in my haste I looked at theVoice1 Page 2 and that's the Voice level and it's in %.
So that's cleared up.

Synth blocks are OK.

I'll check the rest of the blocks to see if there are any other parameters that don't match AE.
 
I just checked the Pitch block and all seems fine now.
Could it be that a disturbance of the Midi signal can do this?
I'm sending quite a lot of data:
This is my patch message:
+ [M] Cameron CCV
+ [M] Minimum Volume
+ [M] INI FX Harmony
+ [1] Volume
+ [2] 01 - Wah
+ [3] 02 - Whammy
+ [M] Key: E
+ [M] Harmony -3 -3
- BLOCK. DELAY 065
- [M] 140 BPM

Where [M] is a Macro
So the whole message would be:

01 CC 011 110
01 CC 041 000 (Chorus 1 OFF)
01 CC 042 000 (Chorus 2 OFF)
01 CC 043 000 (Compressor 1 OFF)
01 CC 047 000 (Delay 1 OFF)
01 CC 049 000 (Drive 1 OFF)
01 CC 051 000 (Enhancer OFF)
01 CC 056 000 (Flanger 1 OFF)
01 CC 062 000 (GEQ1 OFF)
01 CC 069 000 (Multi Delay 1 OFF)
01 CC 075 000 (Phaser 1 OFF)
01 CC 078 000 (Pitch Shifter 2 OFF)
01 CC 083 000 (Reverb 1 OFF)
01 CC 090 000 (Tremolo 1 OFF)
01 CC 019 000 [M] Delay1 Mix Reset
01 CC 027 127 [M] Delay 1/1 time
01 CC 102 000 (Cab 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 104 000 (Chorus 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 106 000 (Delay 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 048 000 (Delay 2 OFF)
01 CC 108 000 (Drive 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 110 000 (Flanger 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 112 000 (Phaser 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 114 000 (Pitch 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 078 127 (Pitch 2 X/Y ON)
01 CC 116 000 (Reverb 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 118 000 (Wahwah 1 X/Y on X)
01 CC 024 076 (Key E)
01 CC 025 057 (voice 1 -3)
BLOCK. DELAY 006
01 CC 026 057 (voice 2 -3)
- BLOCK. DELAY 065
SysEx F0 00 01 74 06 02 0D 01 20 00 25 01 00 01 08 F7
 
Pitch block acting up again
modifier is attached to key in the Y state (Intel harm)
when switching to the X state (fixed harm) the modifier is attached to the voice 1 detune

the only way to reset it, is to select the voice 1 shift and hit enter to edit the modifier and exit it again.
The strange thing is that when I exit the edit of the voice 1 shift, the voice 2 level is selected. it's like something is shifting the modifiers.

When I switch from Y to X the modifiers in the X block are shifted two positions down.

I've done this with no pedal connected and without AE running or USB connected.
This is purely an Axe-Fx problem
 
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Select Pitch 2 Y
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Modifiers attached to key, voice1 & voice2
Next select X
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Modifiers should be attached to voice1 shift & voice shift 2
Instead they are attached to voice1 detune, voice 2 level and voice 1 pan.
it seems they've retained the relative position of the Y- modifiers.

next select the second modifier to edit:
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You can see the value. it moves when sending a CC command.

Next exit the edit:
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The modifiers are shown where they should be.

next switch back to the Y state:

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Modifiers are not attached to key, voice1 & voice2 but to track mode and tracking. Again the relative position of the X state.
Select one to edit:
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Exit and they are back where they should be:
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I loaded the block, and I can confirm that the display on the hardware doesn't match the display in AE.
I'll file a bug report.

Not sure whether it's the hardware, AE or maybe a corrupt Pitch block.
 
Still not resolved.
Noticed it on several other blocks as well.
First parameters on a page were set to minimum value.
When switching between X-Y-X the correct values were displayed again.
 
My guess would be a corrupt patch or block(s). I'd suggest take snapshots, backup your banks (always a good idea regardless), identify the bad patches, reinstall the firmware, and rebuild the bad patches. You can use your snapshots as a reference.
 
I don't want to guess.
I want a solution from FAS.
Blocks shouldn't become corrupt.
If so, why does this happen?
I'll have to rebuild all my global blocks and make my presets again.
The reason I bought the Xl was to avoid this.
 
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