The Logic here is somewhat flawed sewing that first you won't compare amp to amp model but rather amp model to preamp model.
Yes, OP.
If you turn off poweramp and cab modeling, the Axe-Fx will replicate the exact sound of the real amp's preamp such that plugging the Axe-Fx into the real amp's physical poweramp and cab sounds completely natural and, in the tests I've personally run, almost indistinguishable from the real thing.
I agree 100%. However, I would *really* like to see where you would take us with your own ideas. And I don't just mean in terms of amp modeling. Everything is on the table as far as I'm concerned.
Have any of you who own an actual amp modeled in the Axe performed the following A/B test?
1) Set all real amp and model controls identically
2) connect axe to fx return of amp
3) configure axe with cab and power amp sims off
4) match volumes and compare
Does the signal from the axe truly equate to the signal at the fx send jack of the amp? Please relate your experiences with this, as I no longer have any examples to compare.
Yes. I did this exact test with my Axe FX Ultra, about five years ago, comparing the Axe to a VHT head that I owned at the time. I don't recall what model I used for this test (don't recall if the original Axe had a VHT modeled in it or not) but the sounds I got were identical. It took all of five minutes of back-and-forth to nail the VHT's sound.
I have not done it with the Axe FX II, if only because I haven't felt the need.
What I have done though, is take the Axe FX II to a friend's house -- a friend who owns many glorious amps. Running the Axe into a power amp, and into real cabs produces tones that are indistinguishable to their real world counterparts.
The Axe is a truly stellar device.
One person said, that the Axe through a matrix and a cab still doesn't sound as good as a real guitar amp through a cab. And it's the fault of the matrix, not the axe.
How accurate do you think that is?
One person said, that the Axe through a matrix and a cab still doesn't sound as good as a real guitar amp through a cab. And it's the fault of the matrix, not the axe.
How accurate do you think that is?
If it was for sale there be pumping if it was about the speaker sim then obviously notWow, Ed. Did you really edit this post to pimp your music? Now you have not only insulted my logic, but have destroyed the conversational flow of this thread, and given it a soundtrack that sounds like what the cable company loops while I'm on hold. Well done, sir, you've just hijacked a thread: do with it what you will.