Axe-Fx III Firmware Version 12.00 Public Beta #2 (Beta 3)

[m lebofsky]

Personally, I would like to use the virtual capo for 1/2 step drop tuning. but I always seem to hear a little bit of the original note mixed in (yes mix is at 100%).

 

[shatteredsquare]

something about the filters and the saturation of the originals that difficult to replicate with the current tools

Not difficult, they just haven't dug into a minimoog or mutron or ARP odyssey yet to model the filter distortion and resonance characteristics of analog yet. I'd put money on it's already on a to do list somewhere, just hasn't come up in the queue yet

Guess who's board this is

 

[iaresee]

Not difficult, they just haven't dug into a minimoog or mutron or ARP odyssey yet to model the filter distortion and resonance characteristics of analog yet. I'd put money on it's already on a to do list somewhere, just hasn't come up in the queue yet

Guess who's board this is

John Frusciante’s

 

[Gilmourizing]

For those who might be interested, new DOD250 demo here:
https://forum.fractalaudio.com/thre...yond-the-sun-with-new-dod250-on-fw12b.157850/

Cliff, thanks again for adding the 250.

 

[ESW]

this is one of the few things we don't have and would make a great addition. i know you can make one easy enough, but there's something about the filters and the saturation of the originals that difficult to replicate with the current tools. perhaps we should start a new wishlist thread and see if we can convince cliff to give it a go. we'll really need to get everyone on board, because this has been on the wishlist as long as i can remember

+1. I'm like 45 minutes from Plaistow and would be happy to drop off my Mutron III for as long as they need it if they don't already have one for testing.

 

[bjjp2]

There is grateful dead mutron floating around the AX8 forum, and @iaresee has a wonderful block as well.

Thanks. I actually use that one but still not quite as good as the real thing for me.

 

[simeon]

Personally, I would like to use the virtual capo for 1/2 step drop tuning. but I always seem to hear a little bit of the original note mixed in (yes mix is at 100%).

you're probably just hearing your strings acoustically. try turning up, or using headphones!

 

[simeon]

Not difficult, they just haven't dug into a minimoog or mutron or ARP odyssey yet to model the filter distortion and resonance characteristics of analog yet. I'd put money on it's already on a to do list somewhere, just hasn't come up in the queue yet

what i meant was, it's difficult with the blocks we currently have. cliff could probably do it in his sleep.

 

[bjjp2]

you're probably just hearing your strings acoustically. try turning up, or using headphones!

You just blew my mind. All the times I've used the Drop or the Fractal in a home environment the obvious fact that I must also be hearing the strings acoustically never even occurred to me.

 

[bdrepko]

You just blew my mind. All the times I've used the Drop or the Fractal in a home environment the obvious fact that I must also be hearing the strings acoutstically never even occurred to me.

Someone actually filed a bug against Digitech for that. You never know.

 

[DougB415]

+1. I'm like 45 minutes from Plaistow and would be happy to drop off my Mutron III for as long as they need it if they don't already have one for testing.

I was going to offer my EHX Q Tron, but your offer is better!

 

[simeon]

why not do both!

 

[JazzSunn]

12.00
Added “2x12 Godzilla” Speaker Impedance Curve based on a Zilla Fatboy.

Complete overhaul of the Flanger block. See the included flanger.pdf document for details. Complete overhaul of the Phaser block. See the included phaser.pdf document for details.

Added separate Filter Slope controls for the Cabinet block. The range of the slopes has been extended to include 18 and 24 dB/octave. Existing presets will be automatically updated to the correct values based on the previous Filter Slope value.

Added separate Low Cut Slope control for Delay block. Updated models accordingly.

Added “FAS Express” amp model based on hypothetical modifications to a Trainwreck Express.

Improved messaging system so that changing presets while Axe-Edit is running does not cause audio dropout (requires Axe-Edit version 1.4.00 or later).

Improved Scene switching speed.

Added LFO Quantize to Filter, Flanger and Phaser blocks.

Added Triggering to Tremolo block. When the Tremolo is triggered the Tremolo will engage and the LFO phase will start at the Start Phase value. This allows easily synchronizing the Tremolo to your playing. Set to “OFF” to defeat the trigger.

Added Optical Tremolo type to Tremolo block.

Addded “Astable” type to LFOs. This simulates an astable Op-amp Multivibrator as is commonly found in effect pedals. “Beta” controls the shape of the LFO. High values approach a square wave while low values approach a triangle wave.

Added Stack/Hold parameter to Plex Delay and Plex Verb types in the Plex block. When set to STACK incoming audio is stacked on existing audio and held. When set to HOLD existing audio is held.

Changed Hold parameter in Delay block to Stack/Hold (see above).

Changed Hold parameter in Reverb block to Stack/Hold (see above).

Added “OD 250” Drive model based on a DOD Overdrive 250 (gray version).

Added adjustable slope to Parametric EQ block for outer bands when type is set to BLOCKING.

Added LFO monitors to Control block.

Drive block EQ now supports placement pre- or post-distortion.

Added “Stereo Mind Guy” delay type.

Added ULTRA-HIGH quality mode to Reverb block. This mode increases the modulation at the expense of a slight increase in CPU usage.

Fixed loss of precision in certain amp models (i.e. Plexi 50W Normal) when Input Drive is set very low.

Fixed Align tab in Cabinet block not displaying traces properly after changing channels/scenes from Axe- Edit.

14x Adds
3x Changes
2x Fixes
3x Improvements

 

[iaresee]

(Still needs a good envelope filter/Mutron)

this is one of the few things we don't have and would make a great addition. i know you can make one easy enough, but there's something about the filters and the saturation of the originals that difficult to replicate with the current tools. perhaps we should start a new wishlist thread and see if we can convince cliff to give it a go. we'll really need to get everyone on board, because this has been on the wishlist as long as i can remember

Not difficult, they just haven't dug into a minimoog or mutron or ARP odyssey yet to model the filter distortion and resonance characteristics of analog yet. I'd put money on it's already on a to do list somewhere, just hasn't come up in the queue yet

+1. I'm like 45 minutes from Plaistow and would be happy to drop off my Mutron III for as long as they need it if they don't already have one for testing.

what i meant was, it's difficult with the blocks we currently have. cliff could probably do it in his sleep.

I was going to offer my EHX Q Tron, but your offer is better!

why not do both!

Having a device in hand won't help much here. These are well-documented circuits and the filter portions of these pedals aren't that mystical. There's little to gain from having one in hand; you can get what you need from a schematic. Everything you need to build a matching filter section for a single-filter pedal is present in the wah block now.

The envelope portions of these circuits, however, are where things take a turn. There could be a wonderful "Mu-Tron" setting in the wah block, but you'll be missing the tuned envelope filter and you'll have to dial in that in yourself. Much of what makes these pedals these pedals is how that envelope is opinionatedly tuned for you. Fractal gear doesn't really offer up opinions on envelope tuning so you have to work that out yourself.

Thankfully you can export your controllers and share the results.

I've been able to dial in my envelope with my main PRS and the wah block now so I'm tracking Mayer's Dead & Co mu-tron sounds with enough feel and accuracy you'd never know it's Memorex and not live now. Would it work for you? Maybe, but probably not, because that envelope is going to need a bunch of work on your end to get it right.

 

[Bruce4mayor]

I'm neck deep in faking Trower tunes!

Not to get too off topic here but I saw Robin Trower about a year ago at some small casino here in St. Louis. He looks like he's a million and his other 2 band members look no more than 25. They absolutely KILLED it. The bass player sounded vocally perfect. The band was tight as shit and Robin played AMAZINGLY. His tone was Oooie Gooie magic, and as Leon illustrated the AF3 does this so easy now. This sound is gold, just pure gold!!

 

[bjjp2]

Having a device in hand won't help much here. These are well-documented circuits and the filter portions of these pedals aren't that mystical. There's little to gain from having one in hand; you can get what you need from a schematic. Everything you need to build a matching filter section for a single-filter pedal is present in the wah block now.

The envelope portions of these circuits, however, are where things take a turn. There could be a wonderful "Mu-Tron" setting in the wah block, but you'll be missing the tuned envelope filter and you'll have to dial in that in yourself. Much of what makes these pedals these pedals is how that envelope is opinionatedly tuned for you. Fractal gear doesn't really offer up opinions on envelope tuning so you have to work that out yourself.

Thankfully you can export your controllers and share the results.

I've been able to dial in my envelope with my main PRS and the wah block now so I'm tracking Mayer's Dead & Co mu-tron sounds with enough feel and accuracy you'd never know it's Memorex and not live now. Would it work for you? Maybe, but probably not, because that envelope is going to need a bunch of work on your end to get it right.

My MuTron (actually the MuTron MicroTron) has 3 knobs! That's the kind of simplicity I would love from an Axe-Fx MuTron.

 

[dumbeat]

Is there a way to emulate a EH Small Stone on this overhauled Phaser Block? Its my Favorite Phaser.

 

[iaresee]

My MuTron (actually the MuTron MicroTron) has 3 knobs! That's the kind of simplicity I would love from an Axe-Fx MuTron.

That's not really in line with how Fractal delivers effects. They give you powerful building blocks, and you craft the ideal you want.

 

[simeon]

Is there a way to emulate a EH Small Stone on this overhauled Phaser Block? Its my Favorite Phaser.

mine too. i think you can use the bad stone (naughty rock) and change the stages to 4. haven't tried it myself. i have a small stone here, so i'll A/B them when 12 official drops.

 

[stereotactic]

Installed and working just fine here. Reverb hold function isn't whistling anymore. FAS Vibe is AMAZING.

Preset and cab attached.

Wow Leon, I think you’ve actually got a better sound than Trower himself, it’s tonally richer and clearer than the recorded Bridge of Sighs tone. The FAS vibe sounds better than a Uni-Vibe in my humble opinion. This may be the most amazing tonal feat the Axe has performed yet.