Bryanman37
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Hi All - I'm hoping for a little insight. I just got the Ax III on Friday and have run into an issue and am wondering if I'm going about doing something the best way. For background - I had an Ax8, currently have the Fx8 which I use with my JP2C which runs through a 2 Notes Live. I also have a Kemper so I have some experience in the modeling world. I'm using Ares 1.13 and the beta version of Ax Edit III. I monitor through 2 CLRs in stereo and am using 10 ft balanced 1/4" cables from the output of either the Fx8 or the AxIII to connect the monitors. While I have XLRs for the AxIII I'm trying to use as much of the same signal path and equipment so I have as much of an apples to apples comparison I can have and here's why:
I want to use the AxIII as more than just a modeler. I would also like to replace the Fx8 for effects and maybe even replace the 2 Notes at least for IR use with the JP2C ( I have an attenuator for the JP that has a 1/4" line out). Long story short - After bypassing all effects in the AxIII and using the bypass preset in the Fx8, I ran from the line out of the 2 notes to input 2 of the AxIII, set the input level so I was just tickling the red and noticed immediately the tone was not the same as running from the Fx8 (I used the same 1/4" cable). I then did the same thing using input 3 and output 3 and had the same result. There seems to be some change to the hi end, the low mids and maybe in the area of 2khz (give or take). I had thought that this would be the most transparent way of doing this. Given so many touring artists use the Ax in their rig for effects I assume I'm doing something wrong. Am I missing something in the input and output block? (I did back the noise gate way down) Should I be running the JP/2notes in with an FX loop block? That's the only other idea I had. Outside of that, I'm not sure if I have something set incorrectly or if there is a "trick" to the in/out setup menu? The Ax8 and Fx8 just have an input Pad vs setting an actual level. Also, I do not have any global EQ's enabled or adjusted in the AxIII - as a rule of thumb I don't like anything global - it's just easier for me to remember things.
As a 2nd experiment, I loaded the same IR I used in the 2 Notes to the AxIII and set up a new cab block in my preset with that IR. I disabled the IR In the 2 Notes and outside of the immediate volume jump and subsequent input level adjustment I noticed an even greater change in sound. I'm a bit stumped here...I would think that using the same IR in the AxIII would yield the same results to my monitors. I think the change doing this was even greater than in the above example.
As a note - I am not using the on-board EQ on the 2 Notes, and double checked to make sure the power amp sim was off, the room effect is off, etc. It's literally the amp signal coming in, hitting the IR and heading out to the AxIII.
As always, I appreciate the help of the people on this forum!
I want to use the AxIII as more than just a modeler. I would also like to replace the Fx8 for effects and maybe even replace the 2 Notes at least for IR use with the JP2C ( I have an attenuator for the JP that has a 1/4" line out). Long story short - After bypassing all effects in the AxIII and using the bypass preset in the Fx8, I ran from the line out of the 2 notes to input 2 of the AxIII, set the input level so I was just tickling the red and noticed immediately the tone was not the same as running from the Fx8 (I used the same 1/4" cable). I then did the same thing using input 3 and output 3 and had the same result. There seems to be some change to the hi end, the low mids and maybe in the area of 2khz (give or take). I had thought that this would be the most transparent way of doing this. Given so many touring artists use the Ax in their rig for effects I assume I'm doing something wrong. Am I missing something in the input and output block? (I did back the noise gate way down) Should I be running the JP/2notes in with an FX loop block? That's the only other idea I had. Outside of that, I'm not sure if I have something set incorrectly or if there is a "trick" to the in/out setup menu? The Ax8 and Fx8 just have an input Pad vs setting an actual level. Also, I do not have any global EQ's enabled or adjusted in the AxIII - as a rule of thumb I don't like anything global - it's just easier for me to remember things.
As a 2nd experiment, I loaded the same IR I used in the 2 Notes to the AxIII and set up a new cab block in my preset with that IR. I disabled the IR In the 2 Notes and outside of the immediate volume jump and subsequent input level adjustment I noticed an even greater change in sound. I'm a bit stumped here...I would think that using the same IR in the AxIII would yield the same results to my monitors. I think the change doing this was even greater than in the above example.
As a note - I am not using the on-board EQ on the 2 Notes, and double checked to make sure the power amp sim was off, the room effect is off, etc. It's literally the amp signal coming in, hitting the IR and heading out to the AxIII.
As always, I appreciate the help of the people on this forum!