Axe-Fx III 16.00 Beta 8 "Cygnus" Firmware - Public Beta #5

[Omri Bazelet]

Is the 5 band in the Marks fixed?

What was wrong with it at the first place?

 

[yoitsmegabe]

I was getting an 8 band eq instead of the 5 band even though the front panel showed "5 band" as the eq type. This was on the last beta tweaking directly on the hardware.

It's working correctly in this one

 

[My name is mud]

They sound a bit different eq-wise but that's probably due to the Captor unrealistic impedance curve.

You can tweak whatever you want in wall of sound. The captor is a great product for the price . Does the job quickly and is better than 3/4 of modelers .
I prefer sound 1 because it’s less compressed .

 

[gberto]

Now I'm convinced you're withholding the bass amps to punish me for my insubordination

 

[henryrobinett]

Damn. No Car Roamer update? That's one of my go tos.

 

[Matthes]

They sound a bit different eq-wise but that's probably due to the Captor unrealistic impedance curve.

For comparisons like this, it would be cool to have the Captor's impedance curve available in the axe. Great comparison though!

 

[shemihazazel]

For comparisons like this, it would be cool to have the Captor's impedance curve available in the axe. Great comparison though!

It would be nice to have a LOT more impedance curves TBH.

 

[edo]

They sound a bit different eq-wise but that's probably due to the Captor unrealistic impedance curve.

Could be, but also my jcm800 is the 20W studio head, I believe it has a smaller transformer than the 50/100W af model, so it does sound a little thinner. But the feel is incredibly close!

 

[WhammyKat]

Thanks Cliff!!!

 

[ToneRanger]

Totally can’t wait to get home and update.

 

[Vio]

They sound a bit different eq-wise but that's probably due to the Captor unrealistic impedance curve.

What impedance curve? He stated clearly that the cab sim is bypassed in captor. There's a curve even if the cab sim is off?!?

 

[edo]

@edo b= axe

That's correct, but I seriously believe that if I used a real amp 2 nights in a row in different venues, placing the same mic on the same spot, the comparison between the 2 would probably sound more off than the jcm comparison! And like I just wrote in another reply, my jcm is the 20w studio version, so it does sound a little "smaller" than the 50/100w big brothers

 

[yyz67]

@Vio, do some reading about the AMP block (blocks guide) and the impedance curve. They are coupled in the AMP block and the CAB block has nothing to do with impedance in the Axe.

 

[Matthes]

That's correct, but I seriously believe that if I used a real amp 2 nights in a row in different venues, placing the same mic on the same spot, the comparison between the 2 would probably sound more off than the jcm comparison! And like I just wrote in another reply, my jcm is the 20w studio version, so it does sound a little "smaller" than the 50/100w big brothers

You are right, I also compared my 20W "studio" JCM (into Shur Reactive Load) with the AXE Brit800 and came to the same conclusion (AND I could even use the same amp settings for both!). It is even closer than my Kemper profile attempts of that same rig. That's awesome!

 

[edo]

You are right, I also compared my 20W "studio" JCM (into Shur Reactive Load) with the AXE Brit800 and came to the same conclusion (AND I could even use the same amp settings for both!). It is even closer than my Kemper profile attempts of that same rig. That's awesome!

the Kemper is a mystery I will never understand. You can use a triple rectifier profile or a fender Princeton profile, they will always sound like a Kemper, with that annoying ooomph in the low mids that FAS sorted out about 75 fw's ago!

 

[Vio]

@Vio, do some reading about the AMP block (blocks guide) and the impedance curve. They are coupled in the AMP block and the CAB block has nothing to do with impedance in the Axe.

Have I misread? @edo said here

In this clip I plugged into the af3, sent an output to the jcm800 input, jcm800 output into a torpedo captor x with cab sim bypassed, and form the captor back into the af3 input 2, using the same Celestion IR for both clips. The tone, the feel, just amazing!

@DLC86 said "Captor unrealistic impedance curve"
I know what the amp's block Speaker impedance curve is and I use it all the time - so I assume you confused "captor unrealistic impedance curve" - which seems to NOT be used in his chain with the amp block's speaker impedance curve which I don't think it can be bypassed.

Correct?
(Bare with me - based on your avatar name you're a fellow flier same region I'm in and same age even)

 

[yyz67]

@Vio, sorry. I'm not sure I can parse out what the issue or desire is among the different comments. I'll step out of the loop.

 

[DLC86]

@DLC86 said "Captor unrealistic impedance curve"
I know what the amp's block Speaker impedance curve is and I use it all the time - so I assume you confused "captor unrealistic impedance curve" - which seems to NOT be used in his chain with the amp block's speaker impedance curve which I don't think it can be bypassed.

Correct?
(Bare with me - based on your avatar name you're a fellow flier same region I'm in and same age even)

The impedance curve can't be bypassed in the captor cuz it's the load the amp is phisically connected to. What is bypassed is the cab sim which is the equivalent of an IR.

 

[DLC86]

The captor is a great product for the price . Does the job quickly and is better than 3/4 of modelers .

I didn't say it's a bad product, I just said it doesn't have a realistic impedance curve, which for the price might be fine anyway for some people.

 

[Vio]

I didn't say it's a bad product, I just said it doesn't have a realistic impedance curve, which for the price might be fine anyway for some people.

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Sooo captor still has an impedance curve even if the cab sim is bypassed - my understanding was that with no cab sim engaged, the amp signal goes THRU (unaffected)