Absolutely, not for higain modern players... or set under 1.0I can understand high gain players not liking what the speaker drive does... compress etc . But for me a fan of Vox's & Ritchy Blackmore in particular it's just incredible. I'm nailing his tones with this now, something that was elusive in the past. When speakers are really pushed and amps work hard there's a lot of compression going on and single lines gets thicker so to speak. I'd go so far as saying that a lot of recorded tones I try to copy these days actually sound better than the record just because the Axe is so damn good and versatile . Cliff is a genius. Hats off to Fractal audio!!!
I hadn't looked at it this way so maybe it's fine as it is. I pointed that out just because I noticed that in some of my presets I had it set at 5 without undesirable effects, while with the new algo I had to turn it below 2. But probably the sound is just too different to make this kind of comparisonsit should definitely keep a range where it's possible to get an "about to blow up" speaker. if you keep in mind that guitarists in the 60s cut their speakers to produce "distortion" it certainly is welcome to mimic that without actually destroying a vintage Greenback. even with the previous Speaker Drive, it was best to keep it low if you just wanted a little drive...
Currently, due to your excellence, my presets are perfect. you guys rock. maybe it's my imagination, but I had a sonic improvement with Q6.01. can't wait to try Q6.02. thanks for your dedication.Axe-Fx II Quantum Firmware Release Notes
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6.02
Improved speaker overdrive modeling in Amp block. New algorithm captures the “throaty” sound of an overdriven speaker along with the gentle compression. The “Spkr Drv” (Speaker Drive) parameter has been moved to the Spkr tab on the Amp menu. NOTE: If you are using Speaker Drive in existing presets you should audition these presets and adjust the parameter as necessary as the sound and behavior of the algorithm is considerably different than before. NOTE: This change affects all modeling versions as the algorithm is outside the archived modeling functions. I.e. if you change the Modeling Version parameter you will NOT get the old speaker overdrive algorithm.
Improved Drive model frequency response accuracy for models based on op-amp architectures. Models now behave with near-perfect accuracy even when Drive control is set to extreme values.
Updated “BB PRE” Drive model.
Fixed “PI FUZZ” output level too low. The Drive and Level tapers have also been changed so any presets using this model should be auditioned and adjusted accordingly.
Fixed wrong capacitor value in “Esoteric ACB” Drive model. Any presets using this model should be auditioned and the model deselected and reselected to reset the internal parameters.
I can understand high gain players not liking what the speaker drive does... compress etc . But for me a fan of Vox's & Ritchy Blackmore in particular it's just incredible. I'm nailing his tones with this now, something that was elusive in the past. When speakers are really pushed and amps work hard there's a lot of compression going on and single lines gets thicker so to speak. I'd go so far as saying that a lot of recorded tones I try to copy these days actually sound better than the record just because the Axe is so damn good and versatile . Cliff is a genius. Hats off to Fractal audio!!!
It really just adds the effect of what the speakers go through when you run a dimed amp through it. Difference being you can add the effect in without actually diming the amp through it. Have you ever cranked your stereo and heard that grindy sound that starts to come from speakers when they have way to much volume going through them? That's what it does, but it can be controlled with this parameter, for just a little grind and compression to all out speakers about to come of the basket.I´m interested in these sounds - cause I can´t imagine to get a "better" Overdrive with the Speaker Overdrive. The Plexis got a lot of gain when they are pushed hard. Can you make a short recording to show the way you use this parameter?
I´m not shure if i will use it for live sounds
Speaker Overdrive is on 5 after the half of the track
Well, maybe the new algorithm interacts within the Amp-Block algos, what may be the reason, to move the parmeter to the Amp Block`s speaker tab. The downside of this paradigm change is giving a little bit up the "FOH = DI + Monitor = real Guitar Cabinet" parallel paradigm. Now you`ve to decide, if you want tweak to authenticy with IR (using speaker drive) or tweak for the real Cabinet (using no speaker drive).
And if the final Firmware will support the parameter > 0 per default, all the "real cabinet users" may have to jump into the advanced speaker tab and set back speaker drive to zero.
Would be a General setting help? Default Speaker Drive = 0 - YES/NO ? Or automatically set the parameter to zero, if Cab-Block is globally de-activated?!
The downside of this paradigm change is giving a little bit up the "FOH = DI + Monitor = real Guitar Cabinet" parallel paradigm. Now you`ve to decide, if you want tweak to authenticy with IR (using speaker drive) or tweak for the real Cabinet (using no speaker drive).
The speaker drive has always been in the Amp block. Prior to this firmware it was in the Adv tab almost all the way down.
Motor drive was and still is in the cab block.
There is the moment, you`ve to die one dead ...Yes, running into this dilemma in more situations like this, such as with the LF/HF Resonance settings. There's no best of both worlds at this moment, other than using two AMP blocks with separate routings, or two Axe-Fxs...
Motor Drive simulates the way a speaker's voice changes when you drive it hard. It's an EQ thing, not a gain/compression thing.