i've just never had an update DRASTICALLY alter my presets. not once.
there's a difference between things improving and OMG I HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH NOW!! But no, it's never a drastic thing, I've always said as much. Just a sweetening. It can be a big improvement in terms of feel and response and not be a big change in overall tone.Then I would assume you have never had an update drastically improve your sounds either? This all ties into the conversation we're having...
There's no issue with differing opinions. If you don't hear a difference, you can freely say so. I can't speak for the forum moderators, but from my perspective, your post came off as being more about sniping at people who do hear a difference, and calling out Quantum as a phony placebo, than about voicing your opinion. I'm guessing that wasn't your intention, but that's how it came off.
there's a difference between things improving and OMG I HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH NOW!! But no, it's never a drastic thing, I've always said as much. Just a sweetening. It can be a big improvement in terms of feel and response and not be a big change in overall tone.
there's a difference between things improving and OMG I HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH NOW!! But no, it's never a drastic thing, I've always said as much. Just a sweetening. It can be a big improvement in terms of feel and response and not be a big change in overall tone.
it depends on the amp models used - the Rectos have been redone on a few firmwares and each time a start from scratch was necessary. Although they were improved, the Plexis never needed that. Etc.there's a difference between things improving and OMG I HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH NOW!! But no, it's never a drastic thing, I've always said as much. Just a sweetening. It can be a big improvement in terms of feel and response and not be a big change in overall tone.
what I meant is maybe jlynnb1 is using amp models that weren't that much affected by changes through the different firmwares, so he didn't have to re-tweak his presets too much. As I regularly update three bank of presets using probably more than 60/70 amp models, I've noted that some amps barely needs a tweak after a major firmware release, and others needs much more work, even if the changes concerns general modeling algorithms, which is shared by all the modelsWhat does this mean?
Sorry, but this appears to be a total contradiction in terms ~ OMG I HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH NOW!! seems very drastic... far from a sweetening. Again, we are trying to minimize any placebo effect.
And this seems pure crap: I can say that Quantum is no placebo, this shit is hot, "Quantum feels like a virgin on her first night, it's tight, right, and out of sight!!!!!!"
I will also echo the chorus of posts that have gone before me "This is the greatest improvement in all modeling history" etc.
I love my AFX II, and am very excited about updating to Quantum ~ I suspect it will be the best sonic platform I have yet experienced, but my ears must always be the deciding factor, not my expectations nor the surrounding hype...
In fairness, I feel I should give an example of how this might play out:
"You load up the new software update, but when you listen to the favorite presets you have been using, they don't sound very inspiring (too bright, too dull, too much gain, too little bass, etc). So now you set about tweaking these presets, and sure enough, they end up sounding much better! The hard part is knowing if they really are better than before, or if you are just wowed by the before & after comparison, or if your own tweaking skills have improved enough to have made a significant difference. This is in no way to minimize all the amazing work Cliff and the Team are doing (free of charge, no less) ~ Only to say that the differences/improvements are harder to recognize/substantiate when the 'playing field' has been somewhat re-arranged."
it depends on the amp models used - the Rectos have been redone on a few firmwares and each time a start from scratch was necessary. Although they were improved, the Plexis never needed that. Etc.
Sorry, but this appears to be a total contradiction in terms ~ OMG I HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH NOW!! seems very drastic... far from a sweetening. Again, we are trying to minimize any placebo effect.
And this seems pure crap: I can say that Quantum is no placebo, this shit is hot, "Quantum feels like a virgin on her first night, it's tight, right, and out of sight!!!!!!"
I will also echo the chorus of posts that have gone before me "This is the greatest improvement in all modeling history" etc.
I love my AFX II, and am very excited about updating to Quantum ~ I suspect it will be the best sonic platform I have yet experienced, but my ears must always be the deciding factor, not my expectations nor the surrounding hype...
In fairness, I feel I should give an example of how this might play out:
"You load up the new software update, but when you listen to the favorite presets you have been using, they don't sound very inspiring (too bright, too dull, too much gain, too little bass, etc). So now you set about tweaking these presets, and sure enough, they end up sounding much better! The hard part is knowing if they really are better than before, or if you are just wowed by the before & after comparison, or if your own tweaking skills have improved enough to have made a significant difference. This is in no way to minimize all the amazing work Cliff and the Team are doing (free of charge, no less) ~ Only to say that the differences/improvements are harder to recognize/substantiate when the 'playing field' has been somewhat re-arranged."
What does this mean?