Axe-Fx II Firmware 17.00 Released

Cliff - When resetting the USA Lead amp sims so the new changes are implemented, the Negative Feedback on page 2 jumps from the default value of 2.50 (or 5.00 on the IIc+ sims) all the way to 10.00 (max). Is this new value the correct default for these amp models now? My patches sounded like they had a blanket over the speaker with it that high.


Also found a possible bug - When Recalling an Amp block from any user made patch to insert into a different patch (user or factory), the "Y" side of the block always loads with the "ODS-100 Ford Md" amp model. It does this with both Amp #1 & #2, but only when recalling from a user made patch.
 
Maybe.

I'm tired of chasing the past. It's time to create the present and the future. Everyone is hung up on recreating rather than creating. Chasing 30-year old tones. Meh.

You've got the biggest box of tools ever created for the guitarist. Every color and brush imaginable. Forget paint-by-numbers. Create your own masterpiece.

Therefore I'm not going to tell you what they are based on. Many people here need to start using their ears more and their eyes less.

Amen!!!
 
Ok, nothing to see here. Move along everyone...




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Maybe.

I'm tired of chasing the past. It's time to create the present and the future. Everyone is hung up on recreating rather than creating. Chasing 30-year old tones. Meh.

You've got the biggest box of tools ever created for the guitarist. Every color and brush imaginable. Forget paint-by-numbers. Create your own masterpiece.

Therefore I'm not going to tell you what they are based on. Many people here need to start using their ears more and their eyes less.

Well, that's almost like having a modelling guitar where they add the functionality to change pickups but don't tell you the intended sonic goal or reference model of each variations.

While I agree that there is a shit culture of repeating the past among guitar players, I'd offer the counter point that many of us are making real world distinctions from our compare and contrast that comes directly from bring able to say "oh, so this is what a dumble sounds like. And here's how Fuchs and Carol Ann interpret the topology /tone. Same for effects etc.

I may only be speaking for myself but I prefer to know what I'm working with before breaking the rules than stumbling in the dark and hoping I'll find gold.

Either way, I really appreciate you and how you support this absolutely off the charts amazing product.

Cheers
 
Cliff - When resetting the USA Lead amp sims so the new changes are implemented, the Negative Feedback on page 2 jumps from the default value of 2.50 (or 5.00 on the IIc+ sims) all the way to 10.00 (max). Is this new value the correct default for these amp models now? My patches sounded like they had a blanket over the speaker with it that high.

I noticed the same thing when resetting my 'USA Clean' presets. I figured it was a correction to the default amp settings, because my clean presets didn't react that much to the change, perhaps not as noticable as on 'USA Lead'?
 
If you really plugged your guitar to your girlfriend without any sound coming out, you need to check her pulse.

A loud scream of some sort would be expected....

Call your doctor or maybe (if no pulse, very cold, stiff and blue/grayish color) just straight to the morgue ...
I recommend no humpahumpa until the doctor has checked her at least.
 
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Thanks Scott & Sean!

I'll check it out. What I have been experimenting with is running my real amps via Torpedo Reload into the Axe-Fx input 2 and then using the Cab block then out into my interface. With the preamp and tape saturation and distortion control, I should be able to get some really harmonically rich, analog-sounding recordings....silently!

Immediately I have noticed that the High Quality setting drastically changes the sound.

High Quality shouldn't really drastically change the sound, it should stop any aliasing going on. You would most likely start to hear aliasing using highly distorted sounds or the preamp turned up really high.
 
Release Note:

Axe-Fx II Firmware Release Notes
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17.00
Added preamp simulation to Cabinet block. The simulations recreate the sound of overdriven channel strips, preamps, tapes, etc. The Drive parameter controls the gain of the simulation. The Sat parameter controls the ratio of even/odd harmonics. The Preamp Mode parameter (on Page 2) allows selecting between Economy and High Quality modes. In High Quality mode oversampling is employed to prevent aliasing but this results in higher CPU usage.

Added “3 Band Console” types to Graphic EQ and Amp blocks.

Added “Fast RMS” detector type to Multiband Compressor.

Added “SDD Preamp”, “FET Preamp” and “Ruckus” types to Drive block.

Changed Cabinet Type parameter behavior so that the value wraps around at limits.

The Flanger block has been completely rewritten. The new algorithms now model the behavior of classic bucket-brigade device (BBD) units (except they are true stereo). Any existing presets will need to be auditioned and possibly edited. The Depth parameter works somewhat differently now and sets the maximum delay time (up to 20 ms). When Auto Depth is not off the maximum delay is reduced as the rate is increased. There are now three Auto Depth values: Low, Medium and High. Turning Auto Depth to Off allows complete control over the delay time. The minimum time is set by the Delay parameter and the maximum time is set by the Depth. Several new Flanger types have been added which demonstrate the new algorithms.

The Chorus block has a new algorithm based on the BBD algorithm developed for the Flanger block. All the “Analog” chorus types now use this algorithm. Several new types have been added which demonstrate the new algorithms.

The EQ page of the Amp block now supports changing the EQ Type using the Up/Down Nav buttons. The type of EQ will be briefly displayed after it has been changed. The type is also briefly displayed when first switching to that page.

Added “DYN EQ” GUI page to Amp block. This page now holds the Dynamic Depth, Dynamic Presence, Character Amount (Char Amt, previously named “Character”)
and Character Freq parameters as well as two new parameters: Character Type and Character Q. Character Type selects between a shelving behavior or a peaking behavior. The previous behavior was always shelving. Character Q controls the bandwidth of the response when the peaking behavior is chosen. The Character parameters now control a powerful dynamic equalizer that can be used to achieve tones and feel impossible with a real amplifier. Negative values of the Character Amount along with a peaking behavior result in midrange scoop where the scoop increases as you play harder. Positive values result in a midrange boost as you play harder. Experiment with the frequency, Q and amount to achieve interesting dynamic response.

Added VU meters to Utility menu. The meters show the relative loudness of the channels. These readouts can be used to help set preset levels to the same apparent volume. For convenience the level of the Amp blocks can be set from this page. Also, the value of the Output Level knobs is displayed in this page for reference (note that this is only for reference and does not affect the VU meters as the measurement is prior to the Output Level potentiometers).

Added “1959SLP Jump” amp model.

Added “FAS Modern III” amp model. Similar to a Recto but with tighter bass and a cathode-biased power amp.

Added shortcut to Ref Solo in first page of Tone Match block. Pressing the Down button will toggle the Ref Solo value allowing one to switch between the reference sound and the local (user) sound with the press of a button.

The level of the USB input signal when NOT routed to the input (when Main Input Source is NOT set to USB) has been reduced by 6 dB to prevent clipping when playing along with tracks that have been mastered at very high levels (near 0 dBFS).

Improved Amp block power supply modeling by accounting for DC sag due to quiescent bias currents.

Changed name of “ODS-100 Lead” and “ODS-100 Lead Mid” to “ODS-100 HRM” and “ODS-100 HRM Mid” respectively to indicate that they are based on the “HRM” version of the ODS circuit. The names of the “ODS-100 Lead 2” and “ODS-100 Lead 3” models have been changed to “ODS-100 Ford 1” and “ODS-100 Ford 2” respectively to indicate that they are based on the “non-HRM” version of the ODS circuit.

Fixed minor math error in Amp block transformer matching calculations.

Fixed wrong CF Comp value in Solo 100 amp models.

All the ODS-100 models have been redone and re-MIMIC’d based on errors found in the models (wrong negative feedback values).
Added “ODS-100 Ford MD” model which is the same as ODS-100 Ford 1 but with the Mid switch engaged.

Added “Rumble HRM” tone stack type which is based on a plate-driven Plexi-style tone stack found in a Dumble “Hot Rubber Monkey” amplifier.

An exact solution has been implemented for the power amp feedback network in the “USA” amp models. As such all these amp models have been redone accordingly with the exception of the “USA Pre” amp models which use a more conventional power amp model. Any presets using these amp models should be reset either by deselecting then reselecting the amp model or by using the “Update Amps Default” in the Utility->Preset menu. Note: due to the unique topology of the feedback network in these amps the Depth control is non-functional.

A “Presence Shift” switch has been added to certain “USA” amp models (those based on amps with a “Pull Shift” on the Presence knob). This switch is found under the Presence control and replicates the behavior when the Presence knob is pulled out on these amps. Note that the behavior of this switch is authentic and may result in volume reduction when active since the negative feedback is increased which lowers the loop gain.

Replaced the two 4x12 “Kalthallen” cabs with two UltraRes samples from Cab Pack 7.

Fixed several wrong values in Fox ODS amp models.

Fixed wrong value on input plate network in PVH 6160 II model.
 
Cliff - When resetting the USA Lead amp sims so the new changes are implemented, the Negative Feedback on page 2 jumps from the default value of 2.50 (or 5.00 on the IIc+ sims) all the way to 10.00 (max). Is this new value the correct default for these amp models now? My patches sounded like they had a blanket over the speaker with it that high.


Also found a possible bug - When Recalling an Amp block from any user made patch to insert into a different patch (user or factory), the "Y" side of the block always loads with the "ODS-100 Ford Md" amp model. It does this with both Amp #1 & #2, but only when recalling from a user made patch.

I noticed the same thing when resetting my 'USA Clean' presets. I figured it was a correction to the default amp settings, because my clean presets didn't react that much to the change, perhaps not as noticable as on 'USA Lead'?

Anyone else? Buehler?
 
Cliff - When resetting the USA Lead amp sims so the new changes are implemented, the Negative Feedback on page 2 jumps from the default value of 2.50 (or 5.00 on the IIc+ sims) all the way to 10.00 (max). Is this new value the correct default for these amp models now? My patches sounded like they had a blanket over the speaker with it that high.


Also found a possible bug - When Recalling an Amp block from any user made patch to insert into a different patch (user or factory), the "Y" side of the block always loads with the "ODS-100 Ford Md" amp model. It does this with both Amp #1 & #2, but only when recalling from a user made patch.

I didn't check why this happened but I definitely noticed that when I did the unselect/select thing with the USA amps that they got REALLY loud and I had to back off the master a LOT.


I just assumed that was normal but now you are making me wonder if something is/was amiss.
 
17 installed and sounding great here.

As said many times before, thank you for the incredible value and quality you provide to your customers.
 
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