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are there not much love for bass regarding amps and effects?

Discussion in 'Bass & Other Instruments' started by Bushy, May 10, 2018.

  1. Bushy

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    I'd love to see Headrush put out an effect pedal for bassists as well as an FRFR amp (if their sole up and coming one isn't adequate for bass guitars).

    Does Fractal not have gear for bassists too?
     
  2. unix-guy

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    It's called Axe Fx... Or AX-8. There is not a distinction between using them for guitar or bass.

    Or violin, or hurdy gurdy, or pedal steel, etc... All have been reported by forum members.

    There are bass amps and cabs, even a bass specific Drive pedal (DarkGlass B7k). Some of the bassists here seem to feel less love than they think is appropriate, but there's good tone in there. My bassist loves his... He also uses it for Chapman Stick and Mandolin.
     
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    There is a very limited subset of gear in Fractal products. The third party purchased cabs are wonderful - from Dr Bonkers, OwnHammer, and 3Sigma. But if you want some of the more iconic bass amps and pedals, they are not presently in there and there has been extremely soft support from Fractal over time in adding new bass-centric models. It took years to get the B7K in there.
     
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  4. Bushy

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    Is there actually a difference between "just a pedal" vs. whatever it is they are marketing now?
     
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    I'm not sure I follow your question.
    The appeal of the Fractal products is that it is "all in" - you have your amp, cab, effects chain all in one spot, one device. You can switch between different presets on the fly to drastically change your sound as well. Your setup is relatively easy - plug instrument in, plug output to (often) a powered cab, and another to front of house, and you're done. Every night you'll sound the same.

    When I say that there has been "extremely soft support" from Fractal, what I'm saying is that us bass players will sometimes make a bit of a rukus about not having more modeled bass gear. On some occasion, one of the Fractal employees will step in with words of encouragement that bass players are supported and there's more to come. The "soft" part of that is, very little ever actually comes. We don't even know what model SVT or 400 was modeled, or where any of the settings were when modeled.

    All of that said, it's still a pretty good solution for bass players. I still use mine, but, I'm not about to dish out a lot more money for an Axe-Fx III until things drastically change with regards to bass gear modeling. And I've been vocal about that on talkbass, the annual large bass player get together I run, and with anyone who asks me about Fractal gear for bass. My AX8 and Axe-Fx II are pretty alright, but they could be so much more.
     
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    Maybe its my limited knowledge, but as a AX8 -> RCF Bassist, I find my set up usually works well. I have had instances where diff rooms muck up my sound, but I am guessing this is also the case for ye olde amps and cabs. Happy to be told otherwise as I am still a learner.
     
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    Hi,
    I've found that something happened when Quantum firmware was introduced that the Bass amps and IRs became close to usable - I struggled with the Axe FX for bass before that firmware. I'm looking forward to trying 10.01 on bass! Maybe tonight :)
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  8. Bushy

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    Aren't most effect pedals set like that even before Fractal came into existence? I owned a BOSS multitrack that had the so called COSM effect where the effects themselves have the amp and cab emulation. I'm not sure how this is a new thing with the Fractal products?

     
  9. selta

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    Which part are you talking about specifically? The "complete rig in one box"? Yeah, it's not a brand new concept by any means, but Fractal's is the best solution so far in terms of quality and reliability. Years past the processing power available just wasn't plentiful enough to achieve what can be done today. Hopefully, some day, us bass players get tossed a bone... for now, it's a lot of fancy presets with using things in unusual manners to get close-ish to the tone we want.
     
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    I was just setting up a preset on the III for bass. I noticed I couldn’t find an 8x10, but there were quite a few new ones there that weren’t on my AX8. I also saw that the old 8x10 wasn’t ultra res, so I guess all the lower quality ir’s werent Transferred over to the 3. Digging the cabinet mixing!
     

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