Very true... That said seeing that were comparing amps into miked cabs... The amount of filters/eqs in firm if mic(s), pres, etc... Act as an equalizing device...The thing about the "real amps" is the high degree of variance among production units, especially old ones, they don't all sound alike. However the extensive modeling capabilities of the AxeFx should allow the sound you want with sufficient tweaking. Stay at it.
When we discuss tight vs loose ... are we talking dynamic range or response (sag?) of the feel? For me, Q6 responds better to the tone and volume knobs in a way that wasn't there on Q5.
For me it's a sag/feel thing. Sounds amazing but feels like the time between picking and bloom is a bit much. Q 5 was about spot on, Q 1 and 2 we're a bit too immediate, 3 and 4 were improvements. I'm using 5150 and vh4 amps. I've owned a 5150 but not a Vh4 so I do have experience. Only real amp I have left is a triple rectifier which is naturally loose but still doesn't feel like Q6.
If you own an XL or XL+ you can simply choose Version 5.00 modeling as your default modeling version. Ironically those amps you mention get their distortion from the preamp and the preamp modeling is unchanged from 5.00 to 6.00 (aside from the default preamp tube type but you can choose the JJ tube to get it the same as 5.00). But what do I know?
For me it's a sag/feel thing. Sounds amazing but feels like the time between picking and bloom is a bit much. Q 5 was about spot on, Q 1 and 2 we're a bit too immediate, 3 and 4 were improvements. I'm using 5150 and vh4 amps. I've owned a 5150 but not a Vh4 so I do have experience. Only real amp I have left is a triple rectifier which is naturally loose but still doesn't feel like Q6.
To me the low end or bass isn't tight and punchy, it's almost like there is a fuzz pedal in the background of my low end. it's like there is more gain on the lows than there is on the mids and highs. everything is awesome and perfect to me except this. I played for three hours tonight pretty darn loud and had a blast so it's not something terrible I can't deal with, could be my room or my CLR's or me, who knows.When we discuss tight vs loose ... are we talking dynamic range or response (sag?) of the feel? For me, Q6 responds better to the tone and volume knobs in a way that wasn't there on Q5.
I like Q6 a lot. Wahs are so much better and amps need less tweaking. RESET YOU AMP BLOCKS THOUGH!!!!!!!
To me the low end or bass isn't tight and punchy, it's almost like there is a fuzz pedal in the background of my low end. it's like there is more gain on the lows than there is on the mids and highs. everything is awesome and perfect to me except this. I played for three hours tonight pretty darn loud and had a blast so it's not something terrible I can't deal with, could be my room or my CLR's or me, who knows.
If you own an XL or XL+ you can simply choose Version 5.00 modeling as your default modeling version. Ironically those amps you mention get their distortion from the preamp and the preamp modeling is unchanged from 5.00 to 6.00 (aside from the default preamp tube type but you can choose the JJ tube to get it the same as 5.00). But what do I know?
Thanks, changing the preamp tube to JJ really helped. This is most if not all of the difference I was feeling.
I figured that was it. Like I said the preamp modeling in 6.00 is the same as 5.xx except the parameters for the default tube type (12AX7A SYL) are different. The Sylvania 12AX7A is more nonlinear than other 12AX7As which results in more dynamics but will also result in more "background" distortion because the waveform is being distorted even when it isn't being clipped. The JJ version is more linear which will result in a tighter tone and less background distortion but less dynamics.
For 6.01 I've also added back the old 12AX7B type which is the most linear of the types and clips hard. People who play with lots of gain tend to like this as it results in tighter tone and more aggressive harmonic content.
There are two primary parameters associated with our preamp tube models. "Preamp Hardness" determines how abrupt the tube clips when it enters the saturation region. There is another parameter that determines how nonlinear the tube is between cutoff and saturation. This is currently not exposed to the user but I've been contemplating adding it.
I've also changed the default type for British amps to the ECC83 model as these amps typically were equipped with ECC83s (duh). The ECC83 was the European equivalent of the 12AX7A and tended to be a bit more linear and clip a little harder.