Like to hear if any Bass Players are using the AX8 for recording and or playing live... If so please share any experiences you may think are useful for others...
BTW.. Happy New Year.
BTW.. Happy New Year.
I'm interested in this topic too. I have a III and play guitar, but I'm curious for my bass player.
What do bass players with an AX8 use for amplification (not interested to know about in in-ears)? A wedge or other FRFR like for guitar, or more likely a power amp and dedicated (bass) cabinet?
Hi Jimfist, very useful response so thanks, my original post was essentially trying to understand if using my AX8 for Bass Guitar (Fender Precision early2000's) is feasible or should I be looking at a Sansamp or some other device for playing and recording and since this is predominately a guitar player community frankly I didn't expect much of a response so your input is really appreciated.If going full range into "PA-type" cabinets, you have to realize that the fundamental bass frequencies and highly percussive dynamics of the instrument can cause troubles if you don't have overkill headroom or some sort of limiting on the speaker (built-in or otherwise).
Of course, this is a "use case" issue, and depends wholly on the type of music and volume necessary to hear and/or feel the bass in context. Some speakers are not well suited to handle bass, in which case you may need to run a high-pass filter to keep the speaker from farting out at higher volumes.
Getting the speaker loud enough while still sounding like you'd want it to sound can be tricky. For a traditional rock band format, I'll often use 2 full range speakers, either 12" coaxial or 15" coaxial, with tons of power to back it up. It costs money...maybe a LOT Of money depending on volume needed and quality of gear desired. Personally, I've sold ALL of my bass amps and cabinets except for my GK head. All of my cabinets are full-range PA speakers. It's all I've gigged with for the last 8+ years.
So, if you don't have the spare PA gear, or your bassist isn't prepared to fork out the $$$ for it, there's no harm in just plugging it into a traditional bass rig, with amp/cab modeling off - or - using amp modeling (not cab modeling) sent to a power amp (or bass amp's FX input, bypassing the preamp stage) into a traditional speaker.
All these methods can work great, and if you really want to study the various ways to implement the modeling into a bass rig, there's a lot of good things to learn about audio engineering. This forum is loaded with great information.
Hi Jimfist, very useful response so thanks, my original post was essentially trying to understand if using my AX8 for Bass Guitar (Fender Precision early2000's) is feasible or should I be looking at a Sansamp or some other device for playing and recording and since this is predominately a guitar player community frankly I didn't expect much of a response so your input is really appreciated.
I'm not a full time bass palyers but I often have bass necessities that my ax8 does fulfill. I've not messed too much with my bass presets so that may be my fault but I must admit that i cannot get the same satisfication from my bass presets as i do for my guitar presets. In particular, i run output 2 to a Seymour Duncan Powerstage 170 (Solid State power amp) + real Bass Cab and i've not been impressed with this option. Output 1 (including cab block) sound better thanks to the IRs. I've been looking for tips about how to make my output 2 sound better. Any suggestions?
Thank you for taking the time for this reply.
This will be very useful, i'll try to apply all your tips above and see where I get. I agree that the tone i'm chasing shouldn't be too difficoult to obtain but that's been my experience so far.
Just let comment on the impedance of the SD170: I know it's rated at 4 ohm but i'm sure it actually handles 4-16 ohms with no issues and with slight volume differences. This has been widely reported by amany users and that's been my experience with the different guitar cabs i've used the SD170 with.
Again many thanks for your reply!