frankenbeans
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You can use Room EQ Wizard to measure the impedance of your cab, then find a close match in the list of available curves.Dumb question. How do I do that with no real cab?
edit: I am dumb. I missed the “No cab“ part.
You can use Room EQ Wizard to measure the impedance of your cab, then find a close match in the list of available curves.Dumb question. How do I do that with no real cab?
The Suhr RL also has a bit of a muted high end in comparison to a real speaker impedance. Here is a plot of its impedance curve:
http://masterplant.com/electronics/Z.pdf
Note how the real speaker has an impedance of around 80 ohms at 20 kHz where the RL has a little less than 60 ohms. That's about 3dB less high frequency load and, depending upon the amp, will make things sound "rounder" due to the reduced high frequency content.
Comparing an amp into a load box to a model of that amp without an accurate impedance curve of said load box is necessarily going to produce discrepancies.
This is definitely something I'm going to mess around with a LOT more as I believe Cliff has updated it. Hopefully it's just what I need and maybe the "clank" is just nothing more than too much high end curve.Anybody that wants to see how much of a difference the impedance curve can make- just play with the impedance curve page in the amp model block. It makes a big difference.
Maybe just rolling back the HF resonance in the impedance curve will get him closer to what he is looking for
now you've done it... hahaThere are advantages and disadvantages to both. Both can sound great. If everyone just accepts that and picks the right tool for the job the better. In my worthless opinion, the fractal isn’t 100% there yet, though it may only be a small percent off. Tube amps with load boxes for silent stages is not even this close, also IMO. You also can’t carry 2 full stacks, a massive pedalboard, a stable of rack gear, and a trunk full of amazing microphones with one hand. It is unfortunate that every day it seems harder to be “allowed” to cart the real u gear around and play it at a decent volume fir it to sound proper. It is what it is. I don’t imagine there will ever really be a need for two camps (digital vs tube). Just use whatever meets the gig requirements. Fractal is a bit ahead in this respect by quite a bit. Now, everyone will get upset about this post. Haha
This is true. I have both. Real amp vs the Fractal .. In the room.. will be different. Yeah... the tube amp and guitar speaker will sound bigger (at a volume where the amp ‘opens up’ a bit).I'm open to read and listen to others experiences most are live or FRFR. I've done this as well and you can't hear as huge of a difference. What I been talking about all along is isolated. Where you can hear more of the differences. Again not OMG, but it's there. Live is a whole other situation and we all know WE the players care more about that than most listeners.
^^ This guy knows his stuff better than anybody. Cliff has nothing to prove... he’s restless in the pursuit to make FAS as good as it can possibly get. If there’s a problem.. FAS fixes it. If there’s a ‘wish’... that may get implemented. I think he and his company established that a while ago and continues to do so.Do you think that your opinion will somehow magically unlock some technical detail I've overlooked in my nearly 20 years of doing this?
Absolutely! And it applies to the gear as well, especially with something as complex as a FAS unit, along with the various ways of hearing it.Oh... and let’s not forget the BIGGEST thing... practice.
Are u serious? So, because I DO NOT AGREE \like\appreciate your response's to some of the members that means I didn't read your post? Go back to school will you. Jeeezzzz!And now I'm accusing you of not reading. For fuck sake man wear your glasses.
If the modeling were perfect, it wouldn't get updated. However, at this point (with respect to recording) the differences are often trivial to the point of irrelevance, and myriad listeners have been (and continue to be) fooled in blind tests.The Axe-FX is among the best I've heard, but there's still that unexplainable "something" that's not quite nailed yet.
there's still that unexplainable "something" that's not quite nailed yet.
So you don't even have an Axe-Fx but you're convinced there's "something that's not quite nailed yet".This is why I always say that modeling is about 90% there. The Axe-FX is among the best I've heard, but there's still that unexplainable "something" that's not quite nailed yet.
I run a Boss GT-100 across a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 100 in 4-cable method, and totally love the sound. I'm sure the Fractal units are way superior to the GT-100, but I also feel that this gives me that missing element, the real amp in the room.
Having said that, I also believe that it'll be 100% nailed one day, and Fractal may very well be the company to accomplish this. Either way, I can't wait.
But GT100?!?!?So you don't even have an Axe-Fx but you're convinced there's "something that's not quite nailed yet".