Manny Fufish
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This one is fairly concise, and does a good job demonstrating the concept.
Excellent, will check it out. Thank you!
This one is fairly concise, and does a good job demonstrating the concept.
I agree. The filming is very well done. The commentators, however, are tourists without any qualifications concerning architecture, archaeology, carpentry, construction, ancient languages or anything really, besides making money from visiting tourist sites, as tourists, and then writing about these sites or offering their “evidence” for aliens during their interviews in the well-filmed documentaries. These guys have never discovered anything. They have never taken part in a dig. They have never translated ancient scripts. Their speculations have no foundation. They’re tourists! I’d rather hear what some guy who has spent a decade on a dig say about some artifact than Von Danikken, who has spent time in jail TWICE for fraud. That’s a fact, proven, unlike the bunk that they spew.Huh ....
You completely missed my point. If you and “Johnny Wier” want to sit down and debate about so-called Aliens and why ancient civilizations were “not intelligent” , by all means , feel free.
MY point in the thread was to let someone here know there’s a series on the History channel that has incredible video footage of ancient archeological structures and artifacts , found all over the world. ( not just in Egypt , for example , as I was previously unaware that there were pyramids built elsewhere )
There are a lot of interesting FACTS on the show.
The notion that Aliens could have been responsible for technology that existed 5000 years ago , because we can’t it explain today , well - that’s entirely up to you. You and the Ancient Astronaut Theorists can theorize - til the cows come home. I could care less about the opinions of interviewed authors on the show , or anyone else ,
I watch it because it’s educational.
Yes, knowledge is incomplete. The problem with Ancient Aliens is that the people interviewed are complete charlatans. They have no veracity. No proof. No evidence. They’re tourists wandering around tourist sites. Anyone can do that and bring a camera. I only respect people who actually DISCOVER something. People who dig in the ground. It’s easy to make stuff up about Our Alien Overlords but harder to do the work. By the way, Von Danniken has been convicted three times for fraud and imprisoned twice. That’s a fact!History is in a constant state of revision. Our mistake is “knowing”. Just like at one point we “knew” the sun revolved around the earth. Consider gobekli Tepe, and the Chauvet cave (mind blowing) were only discovered in the 90’s.... Perhaps we didn’t have enough data when we drew the conclusion about hunter gatherers? Who knows what else we haven’t discovered yet that will cause us to reevaluate our current knowledge.
Don’t you think that most of the UFO writers are charlatans? Seriously, Von Danikken, the guy who made Chariots... is a convicted fraudster. A liar. He made things up!My dad took me to see "Chariots Of The Gods" when it first came out and I didn't sleep for a week after that. That was my introduction to the Ancient Astronauts theory. I was freaked out by it all at the time and was sure they were coming back to do nefarious things...
I've read and seen a few things regarding this subject since then, and, while there are mysteries surrounding some ancient artifacts/ruins/markings and why/how they were created, I've not really read/seen anything that absolutely necessitates invoking a superior intelligence/race/beings to have created some of that stuff as humans were not up to the task. I think humans were smarter and craftier in ancient times then we give them credit for.
But, I love a good story and mysterious things so it's fun to keep an open mind...but not so open your brains fall out...I find this book interesting and compelling:
UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go On The Record by Leslie Kean.
I've read pretty much every UFO book out there over the years and that one is definitely one of the better ones by far IMO.
Von Danikken, who has spent time in jail TWICE for fraud. That’s a fact
Von Danniken has been convicted three times for fraud and imprisoned twice. That’s a fact!
Sounds like you have a personal issue with this guy?Bon Danikken, the guy who made Chafiots... is a convicted fraudster.
Yes, knowledge is incomplete. The problem with Ancient Aliens is that the people interviewed are complete charlatans. They have no veracity. No proof. No evidence. They’re tourists wandering around tourist sites. Anyone can do that and bring a camera. I only respect people who actually DISCOVER something. People who dig in the ground. It’s easy to make stuff up about Our Alien Overlords but harder to do the work. By the way, Von Danniken has been convicted three times for fraud and imprisoned twice. That’s a fact!
Don’t you think that most of the UFO writers are charlatans? Seriously, Bon Danikken, the guy who made Chafiots... is a convicted fraudster. A liar. He made things up!
Well, it does seem weird that I would go on about a pseudo-archaeologist on a guitar forum. I was looking for a forum on the alien question and Google brought me here, to a thread on the alien question. Why there is an already existing thread on this topic in a guitar forum perhaps you can explain better than me, since you are already a member and I’m not.First let me say welcome to the forums.
Second, does Von Danniken owe you money? You seem to be overstating that point a tad.
Although I do agree that any source of info needs to be questioned and nothing should be accepted on face value alone, and then once accepted, constantly re evaluated against conflicting views. For me, this applies equally to those who dig in the ground (academia/state) as it does to those who appear on tv. For me data is data, the source of it doesn’t change its weight...or the need to challenge it.
People are motivated to make extraordinary claims for psychological reasons. Most are White Trash or otherwise “left behind” and they claim to have seen or met aliens as a way of validating their own pathetic existence.There are much larger subjects built on fraud than ufo’s, that people accept without question. People are inclined to see what they want to see...and rarely ever self criticize.
It’s the people with no commercial agenda that intrigue me...it’s clear they believe what they saw. And what would motivate someone to draw that kind of attention for no gain, at the risk of social/occcupational repercussions?
As I said earlier, I believe most ufo sightings are of terrestrial origin...including the somewhat recent Nimitz sighting.
It’s possible he may be a charalatan in the Clifford Irving sense, but I don’t they all are just because of the subject matter.
People are motivated to make extraordinary claims for psychological reasons. Most are White Trash or otherwise “left behind” and they claim to have seen or met aliens as a way of validating their own pathetic existence.
There is no correlation because the early reports were all hoaxes and frauds. Go to Area 51. It’s a tourist trap. Buy some souvenirs.Agreed, but there are scenarios that would explain that... but that would derail an already wide ranging topic.
On the alien side of the argument, I was always curious as to the locations of the early reports and why no seemed to be correlating them.... where was all of the weapons grade material in 1947, as an example? What did RAF bent water share with the previous answer? Same with Vandenberg? To me, there is no such thing as coincidence... so then what can we conclude by this correlation?
Makes me want go mess mine up.All excellent examples of how we need to stop and re evaluate what we actually know...at least consider additional info even if to goes completely against your agenda (Egyptology). I would add the Antikythera Mechanism as well, a head scratcher on just How "primitive" our ancestors were. If they were significantly more advanced and better understood the power in nature than we do...would that not be "alien" to us?
The matrix theory is gaining traction... Nature, math/numbers and led zeppelin album covers show it everywhere
Anytime I think I'm sure of what I know... I sit and ponder the double slit experiment...and eventually it reminds me to go clean my bong.
There is no correlation because the early reports were all hoaxes and frauds. Go to Area 51. It’s a tourist trap. Buy some souvenirs.
Most, if not all, of Ancient Aliens is bunk. David Childress is the worst of the bunch. He spouts absolute nonsense.
https://www.ancientaliensdebunked.com/
The only show worth watching on History Channel is Forged in Fire.
But it's great entertainment, like How the Universe Works....Most, if not all, of Ancient Aliens is bunk. David Childress is the worst of the bunch. He spouts absolute nonsense.
https://www.ancientaliensdebunked.com/
The only show worth watching on History Channel is Forged in Fire.
The source of data is important, especially since numerous fraudsters have “seeded” archaeological sites in order to butress their contentions or to claim glory for their “discoveries”. A few of these fraudsters have been reputable academics, whereas every single talking head on Ancient Aliens is a complete amateur only in it for the money.First let me say welcome to the forums.
Second, does Von Danniken owe you money? You seem to be overstating that point a tad.
Although I do agree that any source of info needs to be questioned and nothing should be accepted on face value alone, and then once accepted, constantly re evaluated against conflicting views. For me, this applies equally to those who dig in the ground (academia/state) as it does to those who appear on tv. For me data is data, the source of it doesn’t change its weight...or the need to challenge it.