• We would like to remind our members that this is a privately owned, run and supported forum. You are here at the invitation and discretion of the owners. As such, rules and standards of conduct will be applied that help keep this forum functioning as the owners desire. These include, but are not limited to, removing content and even access to the forum.

    Please give yourself a refresher on the forum rules you agreed to follow when you signed up.

AITR

ElectricPhase

Power User
We know very little about this feature right now. We have some tech specs and a couple of brief audio clips....not enough to have a preference IMO.
 

biggness

Power User
Curiosity beckons, and ignorance abides here, but;

Why do we have to give up anything? Seems like this is something that could be added to the Reverb or Cab block's parameters to tweak existing IR's. Or even a whole new Room block so CPU isn't used until you want to use it.

I understand that this is all part of the business model to squeeze out as many units sold as possible per product, driven by absolute zero heads-up on development of newer versions. (Still upset I bought a Mk1 and the MK2 was released forty days later out of the blue with no recourse for an exchange) But fragmenting your user base ain't where it's at.
 

crdark

Inspired
Seems like this is something that could be added to the Reverb or Cab block's parameters to tweak existing IR's. Or even a whole new Room block so CPU isn't used until you want to use it.

No, it isn't. And the CPU issue is irrelevant. You also don't use more CPU, if you don't use the FullRes IRs
 

biggness

Power User
No, it isn't. And the CPU issue is irrelevant. You also don't use more CPU, if you don't use the FullRes IRs
No, misunderstand. I'm talking about the saved CPU of adding a new block instead of adding to the Reverb or Cab blocks.

And on what authority do you have to say no it isn't? Do you code for Fractal Audio?
 

jrayjr

Member
No, misunderstand. I'm talking about the saved CPU of adding a new block instead of adding to the Reverb or Cab blocks.

And on what authority do you have to say no it isn't? Do you code for Fractal Audio?
Seriously, do you even understand what the new feature is?
If you would read the notes Cliff postet, you would know that "Seems like this is something that could be added to the Reverb or Cab block's parameters to tweak existing IR's" will not work, and how should it....
 

biggness

Power User
Seriously, do you even understand what the new feature is?
If you would read the notes Cliff postet, you would know that "Seems like this is something that could be added to the Reverb or Cab block's parameters to tweak existing IR's" will not work, and how should it....
Yes, I do understand. Do you?

It's capturing room reflections, and decays.

Which guess what... we were told since the inception of Fractal Audio wasn't needed for good IR's when we asked for longer lengths and had it beat into our heads that the Reverb block can handle everything you "lack" with shorter IR's by Cliff and Jay Mitchell.

So this new technology isn't some magical impulse response, it's an easier way to have perfectly dialed in room reverb.
 

crdark

Inspired
. we were told since the inception of Fractal Audio wasn't needed for good IR's

Well, I guess that depends on the use case. For recording and live situations it isn't.

I actually don't get why you are that angry? Sorry, if I came across a bit rude trying to answer your question.
 

biggness

Power User
Well, I guess that depends of the use case. For recording and live situations it isn't.

I actually don't get why you are that angry? Sorry, if I came across a bit rude trying to answer your question.
I'm not angry lol

I'm just curious as to why this needs to be in the cab block, and things have to be given up to achieve it.

Here's a discussion from 12 years ago about this very thing, by one of, if not the most intelligent speaker experts in the history of mankind lol

Older Fractal Audio Discussion

Read reply #2, and you can see why I ask that this can't be added to the Reverb block, or made it's own block altogether. Not a nefarious or malicious question, just genuinely curious.

As a side note, go back through my post history. I help, help, help where I can. Full Fractal supporter, pusher, and user. But I will also question things I don't understand so that I will.
 

Dave Merrill

Fractal Fanatic
Normal IRs are 2K. FullRes IRs are 32 times larger so an entire bank would provide 32 FullRes slots.
I know I'm in the minority, at least among the posters here, but I'd like this to controllable. I have a Bunch of user IRs loaded, not full to capacity, but lots, and I like that I can do that. I frequently end up using factory cabs anyway, but I like being able to check out the variety of cab offerings out there.

Maybe IR size doesn't even need to be configurable, it just works. Load either kind in, the Axe knows what what it is and can use it. Obviously it shouldn't let you load something where it doesn't fit.

After I hear and play through more if these, and more UltraRes packs are available, I might feel differently. But for now, I'm not unhappy with the ambience in the factory and commercial and free packs I have, in combination with the available reverbs and delays.

I'd hate to think that suddenly all existing IR packs are obsolete or inferior, to the point of being unusable. To put it differently, they clearly ARE useable, valuable even.

Also, as others have said, this is a prime illustration of why the ability to reorganize/reorder user IRs without breaking your presets would be so valuable. It's been talked about before, but I'm unaware of any progress in that direction.
 

randyman

Experienced
It’s not hard to imagine Cliff thinking “No good deed goes unpunished.”

When the AFX III MKII was released, it was made explicitly clear that the MKII had additional memory to allow functionality that the MKI would not share.

Cliff has let it be known that he has something cool in mind for the MKII … and wait a minute – there may be a workaround that would let the MKI take advantage of this same new coolness! Cause for celebration, right?

Instead, some are grousing that they weren’t personally notified about Fractal’s private business plans. (As if it’s a huge revelation that Fractal might be working on things we don’t know about. (FM9, AXE-FX IV, etc.))

Since I first bought my Ultra years ago, it’s been pretty much a constant progression of win/win for the end user, and we’ve all benefited from that. It will be difficult to find anyone on the forum who can seriously present a cogent argument otherwise.

It’s almost a law that when you buy a new phone, computer, tablet, TV, etc., it seems like that’s when the announcement comes about a new, upgraded product you’d really like. Unless you’re oh, 12 or so, it’s happened to you enough times that you understand “that’s life, Jack.”

So, feel free to direct some anger and frustration my way, instead of trying to kill the Golden Goose. Give the guy a break, and show some gratitude. Sheesh.
 

Bruce Sokolovic

Experienced
IRs are an adequate solution. I’ve recently fallen in love with two notes WOS plugin and really think it’s the bees knees. Cab block bypassed for now here. Still looking forward to see what’s coming for the AxeFXIII!
 

lqdsnddist

Axe-Master
I’d be all in favor of 32 choice IR’s as I rigutnkie have tens of thousands on my HD from over the past decade or so, and never have bothered to load any of those into my III mkI as the factory stuff is so deep to cover all my needs, and honestly out of the factory stuff I only use a handful of favorites as is.

As such, 32 seems plenty to me in the event they are all the best sounding options possible.

back in hardware days I never had even 32 combinations, I had 2 cabs and one mic lol
 

lqdsnddist

Axe-Master
Maybe silly question or already answered and I missed it, but will the fm9 be similar to the III mkII in terms of memory ?

I have a mkI right now and wouldn’t upgrade to a mkII most likely, and not even sure I’ll get a fm9, BUT.... if the fm9 can parallel the mkII, it might make buying the fm9 a no brainer as far as upgrade choices go
 

lauke-lux

Fractal Fanatic
I use headphones a lot because quiet is very desired in our house. The .mp3 samples are interesting and definitely sounded more like an amp in the room, but I think I'd stick with the current sound of the cabs.

And, there are definitely times I'd swear my guitar was going to feedback with the headphones on; The octave would start to whine and I'd think cooool. It's probably a combination of the amp model, and the Out Comp Type setting, but it's pretty realistic.
Wow, Guess you're pushing your headphones to the limit if you start to feedback. I really need my CLR or Redsound MF10 for that. With the MF10 (pre G66 version) the amps sing a bit easier as they're more mid coloured. I prefer the way MF10 cuts the lid in a band but the CLR feels more balanced and accurate to me when playing alone. But I'm off topic here.
 
Top Bottom