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mr_fender

Axe-Master
Normal IRs are 2K. FullRes IRs are 32 times larger so an entire bank would provide 32 FullRes slots.
But I thought UltraRes IR's are 8K samples or about 170 ms long. Is there some kind of file compression or other trickery that allows for all that extra sample data to be stored in the same slots as 2K long IRs? Ancient Chinese secret perhaps?

Either way, I'd be fine with even getting only a few FullRes slots on the MK1 to use. I personally have only a handful of go to IRs that I use for everything live. For recording purposes, it's so easy to swap IRs using Axe Edit, so the number of storage slots is largely irrelevant since I have basically unlimited storage space on my PC. I'd gladly manually swap them as needed to be able to still use the feature on the MK1.
 

dr bonkers

Fractal Fanatic
Vendor
Again bunch of unrelated stuff or things i never said/asked.

I never used the word MUST and said anything like “the room mics MUST sound good.”

It either sounds good to ME or not. I use, play it...and if it sounds good i don’t use bunch of theoretical words stuff to explain it (to my self or others). If does not sound good (the room in a studio or an IR...i just move on to next one).

Good luck with your IRs. (no i did not do what you said about your IRs, HypeReal blablabla,...commercial recordings i do with Axe Fx since years sound real enough for me already, i dont need a HypeReal mix of IRs etc)
I was trying to understand the basis that you had for your evaluation criteria.

Thanks for your time and your clearer explanations on the matter.
 

Forever Again

Inspired
Some answers:

1. This will currently only be available on the Axe-Fx III Mark II. Our other products do not have the NV memory to store the large IRs. I will look into ways of possibly supporting this on the other products. The Mark II has double the NV memory of the Mark I. All the NV memory on the Mark I is allocated. If the demand is great enough one possibility is to reduce the number of slots in the User IR banks and allocate the freed memory to FullRes slots.

If the banks were able to be variable rather than fixed in size based on your usage we could have a winner
 

Heavyplayer

Experienced
It would be amazing if the Mk I would work. As someone suggested earlier, I fully support making the factory cabs downloadable and allowing that space to be used for FullRes IRs. Those who use the factory IRs can download what they want, and those who don’t use factory IRs could utilize that space for the FullRes experience.
This WOULD be lovely and has been asked long before the III and the answer was no. Hopefully that has changed. If not I cant see removing a bank of user IR's just for 32 FullRes, even though I don't use that many.
 

FractalAudio

Administrator
Fractal Audio Systems
Moderator
It would be amazing if the Mk I would work. As someone suggested earlier, I fully support making the factory cabs downloadable and allowing that space to be used for FullRes IRs. Those who use the factory IRs can download what they want, and those who don’t use factory IRs could utilize that space for the FullRes experience.
That would be a nightmare. It would break the factory presets and many of the user's presets.

The only possibility would be to change the User 2 bank to a User FR bank. So you would give up 1024 User IR slots in exchange for 32 FullRes user slots.
 

Repartee41

Inspired
It would be amazing if the Mk I would work. As someone suggested earlier, I fully support making the factory cabs downloadable and allowing that space to be used for FullRes IRs. Those who use the factory IRs can download what they want, and those who don’t use factory IRs could utilize that space for the FullRes experience.
I wonder if certain vendors have licensing issues with free releasing their IRs (even as syx), if the deal was to keep it in the box and that's it.

Coming from someone who has 0 legal expertise
 

crdark

Inspired
The only possibility would be to change the User 2 bank to a User FR bank. So you would give up 1024 User IR slots in exchange for 32 FullRes user slots.

Which would be awesome ... and perfect if the users could choose between having the normal second User IR bank, or the new 32 FullRes IR slots. I don't now if this is possible, but I guess (nearly) everybody would be happy with that.
 

Manny Fufish

Power User
That would be a nightmare. It would break the factory presets and many of the user's presets.

The only possibility would be to change the User 2 bank to a User FR bank. So you would give up 1024 User IR slots in exchange for 32 FullRes user slots.
I would vote for the 32 FullRes user slots option. Thirty two different cabs with the ability to switch them out between sessions is plenty to me.
 
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bchulse

Inspired
Have to admit first thing that crossed my mind when diving in to this thread. "So much for future proof" (As the Axe Fx III Mark I was advertised as)

But pretty sure we will get it, it was already put out there it can be done, but -----.

I remember years ago The Axe Fx Mark I, did not have enough room to run a certain firmware (I forget which one), it was never put out there it can be done. However it was not long afterwards Fractal asked how people would feel about losing the ability to roll back the firmware (within the unit) in the Mark I. Don't remember seeing one "nah". It was done got the firmware and many afterwards.

But I'm with you @VegasGuitar , wont purchase a new unit just for this feature.
My thoughts exactly. While you can't expect a company to predict future breakthroughs, the III Mk I was marketed as having plenty of memory for future updates. So this is disappointing. Perhaps they will find a way to make it work on the Mk I. If not, oh well. Doesn't change how great the Mk I sounds right now and will going forward....
 

FractalAudio

Administrator
Fractal Audio Systems
Moderator
My thoughts exactly. While you can't expect a company to predict future breakthroughs, the III Mk I was marketed as having plenty of memory for future updates. So this is disappointing. Perhaps they will find a way to make it work on the Mk I. If not, oh well. Doesn't change how great the Mk I sounds right now and will going forward....
It has plenty of memory for firmware updates. It has limited NV memory for user data storage because at the time it was designed the FLASH chips used were the largest capacity available.

The Mark II has larger capacity FLASH chips because they're available now.

Frankly the whining over this is very off-putting. We do the best we can with the technology available. To expect a product that was designed five years ago to be as capable as a newer model is ridiculous given the pace of technology advancement. A computer built five years ago would've been considered state of the art if it had a 1TB hard drive. Now those are considered midrange.
 

joegold

Fractal Fanatic
To an extent, but not entirely. You'll hear the increased decay time of the captured room reflections, but the response in the room is a physical interaction between the room surfaces and the resonance and dispersion pattern of the cab/speaker(s). No IR can change that.

To put it another way, if you used a distant mic IR and your FRFR was in an anechoic chamber, the IR would not be able to change the deadness of the room. You'd still hear the captured reflections in the IR, but they would be heard as direct sound from the cab and not coming from all around you in the room like true reflections do.

Thanks. That's what I thought too.
 
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