paulmapp8306
Fractal Fanatic
Hi all.
For the first time in 6 years I own a real amp. Had been gasing for a while to fulfill a couple of purposes. Firstly I wanted a small combo as a pick up and go solution - the AFX is great, but its still a 4U rack, Cab and Midi board for me (I still go amp/cab live). For "round a mates" or "jam" type sessions it was too much. Secondly I wanted a valve reference - as I hadnt had anything to compare the AFC against for a while.
Anyway - finally jumped on a Fender Machete, as it was stupidly priced. The amps really nice, and 3 of my patches were surprisingly close to the Ch 1 clean/pull gain and Ch 2 settings on the Machete (delux for the clean, princeton for the boost and custom audio for the lead).
Anyway - was looking at ways of integrating it into the home set-up. initially used the AFX in the loop of the Fender - no problem. However when using it in the 4 Cable method, to get the best out of pre-post pre-amp FX, its REALLY noisey. Its the signal coming out the the AFX loop, being amp'd byt the Fenders pre-amp. Its audible in all 3 gain settings - but not surprisingly its VERY loud in the gain channel. I disabled all the FX just to be sure something wasnt ramping up the gain - and its not. Plugging into the amps front end direct, and the gain channel is surprisingly quiet, but going into the AFX, then out of the FX loop first block (via OP 2) and its REALLY noisey. I can disconnect the shunt from input to the FX loop - and it makes no difference, still REALLY loud. Running a row of shunts to OP 1 is quieter, but not as quiet as the ap on its ow.
I am using "hum buster" cables on the outputs (both OP 1 and OP2) but not input 2 (from the amps FX send).
So - any tips hear. Ive put a gate inline for now on the gain patch - but its threshold has to be around -15db to have any effect. I get two green LEDs on the input 2s meter when on the Fenders gain channel (so you see how loud the signal is). As I say - plug into the amp direct on Ch 2, the go into the AFX i/p 2 and its quiet. Its definitely the AFX output from OP 2 causing the issue - guitar signal or no guitar signal.
For the first time in 6 years I own a real amp. Had been gasing for a while to fulfill a couple of purposes. Firstly I wanted a small combo as a pick up and go solution - the AFX is great, but its still a 4U rack, Cab and Midi board for me (I still go amp/cab live). For "round a mates" or "jam" type sessions it was too much. Secondly I wanted a valve reference - as I hadnt had anything to compare the AFC against for a while.
Anyway - finally jumped on a Fender Machete, as it was stupidly priced. The amps really nice, and 3 of my patches were surprisingly close to the Ch 1 clean/pull gain and Ch 2 settings on the Machete (delux for the clean, princeton for the boost and custom audio for the lead).
Anyway - was looking at ways of integrating it into the home set-up. initially used the AFX in the loop of the Fender - no problem. However when using it in the 4 Cable method, to get the best out of pre-post pre-amp FX, its REALLY noisey. Its the signal coming out the the AFX loop, being amp'd byt the Fenders pre-amp. Its audible in all 3 gain settings - but not surprisingly its VERY loud in the gain channel. I disabled all the FX just to be sure something wasnt ramping up the gain - and its not. Plugging into the amps front end direct, and the gain channel is surprisingly quiet, but going into the AFX, then out of the FX loop first block (via OP 2) and its REALLY noisey. I can disconnect the shunt from input to the FX loop - and it makes no difference, still REALLY loud. Running a row of shunts to OP 1 is quieter, but not as quiet as the ap on its ow.
I am using "hum buster" cables on the outputs (both OP 1 and OP2) but not input 2 (from the amps FX send).
So - any tips hear. Ive put a gate inline for now on the gain patch - but its threshold has to be around -15db to have any effect. I get two green LEDs on the input 2s meter when on the Fenders gain channel (so you see how loud the signal is). As I say - plug into the amp direct on Ch 2, the go into the AFX i/p 2 and its quiet. Its definitely the AFX output from OP 2 causing the issue - guitar signal or no guitar signal.