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    FM3 XLR to TS output cable diagram?

    Hey Everyone, I have been using my FM3 in 4CM with a Bogner Ecstasy 20th for years. I have a slight hum on Output 1 Left (to FX Return on the amp) I just picked up a 2nd FM3 and was about to make some new cables. I can't, for the life of me, find the diagram that I used to make the first SLR to...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    I guess "Pulse" is not really a good word to use, sorry. That's what Voodoo Lab calls it. Really, it is a simple Momentary contact closure/relay closing. No signal goes into the amp from the switcher.
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    I don't think so, but anything is possible. It needs a Pulse because the switching is Momentary. On the Voodoo Switcher, I needed to set it up so that it only Pulsed with the ON function and not the OFF function of the relay button. This prevents the amp from seeing another relay closure for the...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    Thanks guys! I just updated to the Beta firmware. I am going to add an expression pedal while the FM is hooked up to my computer, then I'll try out the Midi switching! One thing I noticed while messing around in the FM Edit. If I am on the Midi Block edit page and I change a Scene, the PC# does...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    I'll give that a try! Currently using 1.05 Firmware How do I find the Beta Firmware? The only link I see on FAS website is for 1.05
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    I originally had the Switcher on Channel 2 and the FM on Channel 1 when I was using the Control Switcher. I changed the Switcher back to Channel 1 for the RJM. I'll switch it to Channel 2 and see if that changes things. I wasn't sure if it mattered because I'm using the FC12 instead of a Midi...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    I'll give that a try! I also realized that I can change the PC # on the Midi block and then push Test..... As for the RJM, possibly. I had the same problems with the Voodoo Lab Control Switcher. The amp changes instantly with it's foot switch, so that leads me to believe that it's not the amp...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    Thanks! I moved the midi block to be the very first block in the Preset. Figured it wouldn't hurt to try. This didn't change anything. I did notice though, that the Boost function on the amp works faster than changing channels does...... The Boost function uses a Momentary On/Off function...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    The Bogner requires a Momentary "Pulse-Only" to change channels. I did cycle through the Scenes while in the Edit page for the Midi block. It seems to have the same delay. I'll experiment with moving the Midi block around. It is currently in the middle of the Preset. I placed it between the...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    Thanks everyone! I made a custom cable for my Mini Amp Gizmo. The delay in switching is still there. It is definitely coming from the FM3. I’ll try the FM3 without the FC12 and see what happens. A few of the Scenes have a Hold function on Their buttons, they are left over from the factory...
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    Thanks! I had thought of that, but I've used the Voodoo Lab on other amps with great success. I have an RJM Mini Amp Gizmo too. I'll make a cable up for the Gizmo and try it this afternoon.
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    I forgot to mention that I am using the newest Firmware for both the FM3 and the FC12.
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    FM3 Midi Block - Can I make it switch faster?

    Hey Everyone! I am loving the FM3 so far! I'm using the FM3 with an FC12 in 4CM with a Bogner Ecstasy 3534 amp. The FM3 sits on top of my amp to keep all audio cabling as short as possible. The Bogner uses Momentary switching that is "Pulse Only," for channel switching. I am using a Voodoo Lab...
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    [implemented] Scene Toggle last scene

    +1000!!! I use this function on my Digitech GSP1101 all the time. Very powerful tool if you sing and play in a band, no need to look at the foot switch to change back from a solo or clean patch!
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    FX8 Relay Question - Momentary Switching?

    Thanks! It sounds like that will work. The FX8 will hopefully get here on Friday and I'll try it out! I should have guessed that Fractal called it something different. Most of my amps use Latching relays for switching, but I have 2 older Rivera S-120 stereo amps that use Momentary. This will...
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    FX8 Relay Question - Momentary Switching?

    Thanks Chris, I have an old Rivera amp that uses Momentary switching. I've tried it with Latching, but it doesn't work right and I don't want to burn up any of the control circuit inside the amp. I have a few RJM devices, Switch Gizmo, Mini Amp Gizmo, but wanted to do away with everything I can...
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    FX8 Relay Question - Momentary Switching?

    Hey guys, Can the FX8 relays be set to "Momentary," rather than Latching? I sold my old FX8, but just bought a "B" Stock one today, great sale price! I couldn't find anything in the search or the manual, sorry if this has been discussed already.
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    Wish Scene Backtracking on FX8

    I've gotten spoiled with my Axe FX XL. I play guitar and sing in a 3 piece band. The ability to use Preset Backtracking on the XL is priceless! I had an FX8 Mark I for a few years and then sold it when I got the Axe. I just bought a Mark II for a grab and go rig. It's only missing one thing...
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    Rivera Knucklehead Reverb and FX-8 Midi Question

    Perfect, thanks. It looks like I can send any PC number that I want with a Scene. I didn't want to use a Midi Block if I didn't have to.....that's wasting valuable FX space! Thanks
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    Rivera Knucklehead Reverb and FX-8 Midi Question

    I did a search but did not find exactly what I was looking for. I foolishly sold my Mark I FX-8 when I got the Axe XL. I use the XL with a Rivera S-120 amp and it sounds incredible! I am wanting to build another rig, consisting of the FX-8 Mark II and a Rivera Knucklehead KR100 amp. I would...
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    Considering switching strategies to multiple presets in lieu of one preset and many scenes

    I just got an XL last week. So far, I have been using 10 presets that are mostly clones of each other. I am only using my amp's preamp channels for now (using 5CM since the amp is stereo). The amp is a Rivera S-120 stereo combo. I'm using an RJM Switch Gizmo to change channels and activate the...
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    Backtracking between Scenes?

    Yes, definitely, but.... When you sing and play guitar in a 3 piece, every thing is noticeable. My old Digitech GSP1101 has seamless patch changes with delay spillovers and a "Bounce-Back" feature on the footswtich that does what Backtracking does. This makes things so much easier! When the...
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    Backtracking between Scenes?

    And.......there go my dreams of world domination....... If the Preset changes can be seamless, with delay spillover, using multiple similar presets with FX status turned on or off depending on my needs for each preset, I guess it wouldn't matter anyway. I don't really need amp sims, just stellar...
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    Backtracking between Scenes?

    Matt from Fractal just sent this to me in an email. Looks like what I want to do is possible! "Hi Andy, The only thing I can think of on the FX8 that would do this is the SCENE 1/2 TOGGLE function. You could set up the solos to be SCENE 2 and then return to SCENE 1 with a tap of the same...
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    Considering switching strategies to multiple presets in lieu of one preset and many scenes

    Thanks!
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    Wish Scene Backtracking

    I've been reading a lot about Delay Spillover between Presets. I use Scenes on my FX-8 and have great Spillovers with no lag time between the Scenes. I know the MFC does "Backtracking" between Presets. I think it would be a huge step forward if Backtracking could work between Scenes as well...
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    Considering switching strategies to multiple presets in lieu of one preset and many scenes

    I've been considering stepping up to an AxeFX II XL+. I currently have an FX-8. My main issue is the lag time between presets on the FX-8. Does the Ultra have seamless patch changes? Does it have Delay Spillover between Presets? Does copying Presets on the XL+ (and simply muting unused FX)...
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    Backtracking between Scenes?

    Thank you guys! This is definitely some food for thought..... I think the unfortunate thing for me is that I may be on a clean Scene or a Dirty Scene and switch to a Lead Scene. I don't use the same 2 Scenes that I would toggle between for every song. Maybe the best way to look at it is: I...
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    Backtracking between Scenes?

    I know the lack of seamless Preset changes has been discussed many times, but most of the threads are a bit old and I am hoping that some of this has been taken care of in firmware updates since those old threads....... I posted this in the MFC forum, but did not get a response. Perhaps I...
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    Scene Bounce Back or Previous Scene on 2nd Button Press?

    In my search, I did find a way to "Backtrack" on Presets, but not Scenes Backtracking...
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    Scene Bounce Back or Previous Scene on 2nd Button Press?

    Sorry if this has been discussed before. I was not able to find it in a search. Is there a function on the MFC that would allow a 2nd press of a Scene button to return to the previous Scene? For instance...... I press Scene 5 for a solo in a song When the solo is over, I press the same button...
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    I wound up changing the pot to a standard 100K linear wah pot. I never got around to using the toe switch because I wound up adding another 250K linear pot to control the overall volume in the side of the expression pedal. I've been using the Auto Sense to turn the wah on and haven't even tried...
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    Wish FX-8 Rackmount & Made in the US

    I picked up an XL. I love it, but it's not what I want for 4CM. For starters, I just don't have room for a 2 space unit in my rack. I'll use the XL for recording or running into my old Rivera S-120. For my Mesa rig, I think I'll use the FX8 or my trusty old Digitech GSP1101. If you guys at...
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    Wish FX-8 Rackmount & Made in the US

    I guess my concern is that I don't need amp or cab sims. I have a heavily modded tube preamp that gets the sounds I want. I really do like the FX on my FX-8, but don't want all of the cabling on the floor. I use a custom cable snake with midi,hum-buster, signal, etc. all in one, but it's...
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    Wish FX-8 Rackmount & Made in the US

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd really like to see a US made FX-8 that is rack mounted. I use a heavily modded Mesa Formula preamp with a 20/20 power amp. My FX-8 (Mark I) sounds and works incredibly well with this setup, but I don't like having a ton of cabling involved with my setup. If the FX were...
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    List of amps that have ground loops with FX8

    Thanks! Judging by the poll above, Humbusters solve most people's problems with ground loops. A good isolation transformer for gigging is vital here in Hawaii. We have the dirtiest power I've ever seen.
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    List of amps that have ground loops with FX8

    Yeah, it seems like some bar owners cut every corner they can when it comes to the stage. I usually try to have power conditioners and ground isolators like the Hum X in use all the time.
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    List of amps that have ground loops with FX8

    I forgot to list Cable Snake options. I like to use 20', 8 cable, TRS snakes. This allows me to create Humbuster cables, as well as solder midi connectors, XLR connectors, etc. onto it. These are completely not necessary, but it makes setup/teardown much faster and easier. Plus, you have built...
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    List of amps that have ground loops with FX8

    Every processor has the potential to create ground loops with the amp that it is used with. That said, so far, the FX8 has been much more friendly with amps than most of the other processors I have used. The purpose of this thread is not to point fingers, but to provide a list of amps that may...
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    That is a really cool idea! I think you would be able to tell because the LED for the effect in question would light up. For instance, if you are in Whammy setting, the Whammy LED will be lit.
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    I forgot all about this, sorry. Here is what I wound up doing: 1. I noticed that the wah had a very narrow sweep, no matter where I set the minimum and maximum. I swapped out the 10K linear pot for a 100K linear pot and now the wah is so much more like my Fulltone Clyde Deluxe. 2. I...
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    Looper Volume?

    That's kind of what I was thinking. Is there a way to assign the Looper output to the same knob? Is there a way to control the Looper output at all? The knob controlling the Post Out is a life saver. I can crank my amp and still use it with reasonably low volume by turning the knob down.
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    Looper Volume?

    It controls the Post Out Volume.
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    Looper Volume?

    I may have just missed this, but..... How do I control the volume of the Looper? I am using a volume knob in Expression 2 that controls the output of the Loop. It has no effect on the Looper, because I have Looper set to "Post Loop." My Loop, when playing back is way louder than my live...
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    Scene Toggle with single button?

    16 Scenes would be cool! I always have my solo button in the same place, but am seldom on the same Scene (for each song) before I hit the solo Scene. Maybe X-Y Scene buttons would be easier.......Solo function for each Scene! Either way would work perfectly for me!
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    Scene Toggle with single button?

    :mrgreen Then I would have an excuse to give the Digitech to my son and get another FX8! :mrgreen
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    Scene Toggle with single button?

    Sort of, but the difference is, this would take you back to the last Scene you were on instead of the Y setting every time. For instance in a song: If you are on the clean setting and move to a solo setting, then back to the same clean setting again. Then, in the next song: Overdriven rhythm...
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    Scene Toggle with single button?

    Right on, thanks!
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    Wish Scene Toggle with single button?

    It would be really useful if a Scene button was able to toggle between the selected Scene and the previous one? For instance...... If I am using 2 Scenes for a song and do not want to go back and forth on different buttons. I use Scene 5 for cleans, and Scene 4 for leads. I would love to...
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    Scene Toggle with single button?

    Thanks Chris, I will add this to the Wishlist. I almost did, but wanted to check first.
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    Scene Toggle with single button?

    Is there a way to set up a Scene button to toggle between the selected Scene and the previous one? For instance...... If I am using 2 Scenes for a song and do not want to go back and forth on different buttons. My Digitech GSP1101 (actually the Control 2) has a function that allows me to...
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    Wish Rackmount Version of FX8?

    I think you would have to use a 3 space shelf. The specs say 3.96" high. I just measured mine, with the handle, it looks very close to 4". That's not a bad idea, but I really only want a 4-5 space rack at the most. That would include preamp, power amp, power conditioner, and FX.
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    Wish Rackmount Version of FX8?

    Where can I get an AxeFX II for the same price? If it were the same price, I'd definitely give it a try! All of the ones I've see were more expensive though. With a rack mounted FX8, I would still need a midi pedal, but I could use any midi pedal I wanted to. It seems like the midi pedal is a...
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    Wish Rackmount Version of FX8?

    I had thought about that, but for me it is just too much extra stuff. I don't want to spend the extra money on stuff I'll never use, like amp simulations. I just want FX, midi, looper, one cable on the ground. I want FX in front of my preamp, and then between my preamp and power amp.
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    Wish Rackmount Version of FX8?

    That's what I was thinking. I don't really want to give up tubes. I do really want a high end rack processor that does everything I need. I've been using a Digitech GSP1101 for years. I just keep the amp sims turned off. It's a great processor for FX. Midi functions are a little bit...
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    Wish Easily Adjustable - Post Out Volume to Control Volume/Output

    Yes, exactly! I've been using the FX8 with 2 tube amps for stereo. I love the fact that I have 2 different clean channels and 2 different lead channels and I can have any combination of the two. One amp clean, the other distorted, etc. Unfortunately, neither amp has a Master Volume that...
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    Wish Rackmount Version of FX8?

    Maybe I'm being silly here, but I have a Triaxis. It would be great to have just FX, everything the FX8 has, in an easily rack mounted format so that I only have a midi cable on the floor. Not sure how popular this would be, but I'd buy one in a heartbeat!:mrgreen
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    Wish Easily Adjustable - Post Out Volume to Control Volume/Output

    Thanks to a few of the other forum members, I was able to figure out how to control the Post Out Volume with an Expression Pedal port. I built a little volume knob to control the Post Out Volume, works like a charm! Stereo jack and a 250k linear pot. Would it be possible to have knob C...
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    How do I access Factory Presets?

    Thanks guys. I saved my preset before uploading the factory presets. I then was able to create a new preset on M1 with my old preset. Very straightforward. Gotta go try some presets now!!!!
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    How do I access Factory Presets?

    Right on, I was just going to ask that question...... I'll give it a go right now and see how it works. I only have one preset on my FX8, it's pretty much all I need, but I thought it would be cool to have example presets as well for when I get bored with my own. Will my preset be erased when...
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    How do I access Factory Presets?

    Maybe I'm being stupid, I can never tell...... My FX8 doesn't appear to have any factory presets. I got it used, and all presets were blank. Do I need to do a factory restore or something?
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    Glogal Post EQ Gain as a Master Volume?

    I built a little volume knob to control the Post Out Volume, works like a charm! Stereo jack and a 250k linear pot. I tried a 10k and it just didn't have enough of a sweep. Most of the sweep below 2:00 was off, no control at all. I also tried a 100k linear pot, but I think the sweep of the...
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    Glogal Post EQ Gain as a Master Volume?

    Perfect, thanks! I thought I was in the wrong place.
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    Glogal Post EQ Gain as a Master Volume?

    I just tried using the Post Out. You only have the choices of +4 or -10 though. If I'm looking in the correct place...... It would be great if I were able to use a Modifier on the Post EQ Gain. Adjusting the level here seems to work the best for my setup.
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    Glogal Post EQ Gain as a Master Volume?

    Thanks guys! I was hoping that there was actually a way to do this on the fly. What model are you using from Mission? Does it take a TRS cable or just a TS? Thanks again
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    Glogal Post EQ Gain as a Master Volume?

    My amps don't have overall Master Volumes. That is one thing I really miss about switching from Mesa to Rivera and PRS amps. It's barely 7AM here on Saturday morning. I wanted to jam, but it was way too loud with an amp for my sleepy neighborhood. I used the Global Graphic EQ's Gain...
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    So what does everyone think Of the Helix?

    I thought about one very briefly. Then, I looked at my HD500X and remembered how much I hated it. I never use amp sims, and the chorus just did nothing for me. The delays were nice, until I A/B'd them against the G-System or any TC delays for that matter. I did really like the size though...
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    FX8 with PRS Archon

    I've got my FX8 dialed in with my Rivera Fandango. I want to use the Rivera in stereo with my PRS Archon 25. I think it would sound really good, Classic Rock amp and over the top distortion amp together! Last night I unplugged the Rivera and plugged the Archon into the FX8. Once I got all...
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    I've always wanted to try the new Laneys. I'm a huge Iommi fan.
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    Funny thing about noise........ The first two nights that I used my FX8 with my Rivera Fandango, I did not have enough hum to bother me. It was there, slightly, but didn't change on either amp channel and it never got any louder when I turned the amp up. Last night, I tried the FX8 with my...
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    Right on! What amp are you using? This way the next guy with that amp will know that he should order the cables at the same time.
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    I think the 4CM adds a lot more potential for ground loops though because you have many more connections between the same two pieces of gear.
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    I think a lot of it is determined by the amp. My other rig is a Digitech GSP1101. It's an incredible piece of equipment with the MustBeBeta software, not so great without it. I use the GSP with a Rivera S120 stereo tube combo from 1990. That amp has hated every pedal and processor that I have...
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    I had to use this device with my old G-System: Ebtech HE-2 2-Channel Stereo Hum Eliminator | Sweetwater.com Ebtech HE-2 It worked really well.
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    Overwhelming ground hum without humbusters

    Lair Williams at the TC Electronics forum wrote the "White Papers."...
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    FX8 mounting to a pedaltrain board

    Do you know the model number of your Pedaltrain? I'm using a PT-2, but the board is about 3" tall at the back, so the entire setup is uncomfortable to use. I was thinking about making one out of plywood, but if there is a low profile Pedaltrain that works, I'd like to try it. Thanks As for...
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    Fractal Relay Switching w/PRS Amps?

    I found this thread on the PRS forum: Archon midi switching solutions It would seem that I can easily add 1/4" jacks or just make a cable that connects the footswitch jack to my Control Switcher. I'm already using the Control Switcher for my Rivera Fandango (with home-made cable) though, so I...
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    Wish Small bi direction midi controller for looper

    I'd be super happy if I could get simple looper functions on the side. I'm used to a TC Ditto. Full external control would be really incredible. We would be able to control Looper functions and Scenes without tap dancing. Not complaining though....:mrgreen I haven't even tried the Looper on...
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    Fractal Relay Switching w/PRS Amps?

    Thanks. I'll have to do a little bit of experimenting with the footswitch this evening. Maybe it has to do with the LED voltages in the footswitch or something. Might drain the amp's power supply through long cables. I have a Voodoo Lab Control Switcher, but that and the Amp Gizmo are simple...
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking it would be cool to switch between Whammy and Wah. My thought was that when I turn the Whammy ON, the expression pedal would change the pitch. When I turn the Whammy OFF, I didn't want it to necessarily turn the Wah ON. This way, the Auto-Sense would...
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    Fractal Relay Switching w/PRS Amps?

    PRS is already closed for the day. 6 hour time difference between me and them, so I was not able to call when they were open. Does anyone here know if PRS amps will work with the relay switching on the FX8? I have an Archon 25 combo that I would really like to control from the FX8. It's a...
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    Thanks! I'll give it a try this afternoon. I also want to try the Whammy thing. I'm wondering if I can set the toggle for Whammy On/Off, Wah Off/On, and use Auto-Sense for the Wah. I'm guessing that I can only use one or the other method for turning Wah on. Maybe Whammy On/Off, Wah On/Off (or...
  83. M

    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    I think I would still like to figure out how to toggle between Volume and Wah with the toe switch. That would free up quite a bit of pedalboard space for me. Or....I could really tricky and toggle between Whammy and Wah while using the auto-sense for the Wah......
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    I just caught this part....... Good to know that the Wahs are that good! The Clyde Deluxe is just so silent and smooth. I've tried tons of vintage Vox, Crybaby, etc., I keep coming back to the Clyde. I did like the Budda Wah though!
  85. M

    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    That would be cool for funky rhythms vs whacked out leads! I might just have to try that!
  86. M

    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    Perfect, thanks!
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    Thanks! Years ago, I had a Bad Horsie II Wah pedal. I loved it, with the exception of..... When the pedal was too far in the "Toe-Up" position, the Wah effect would turn off. When the pedal was pressed again, it would naturally turn itself back on, but there was a weird (although very short)...
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    Mission Expression Pedal w/toe-switch with FX8?

    First post here, but I've been reading a lot about the FX8. I have a used FX8 on the way. It was a little more than a new one, but I needed something right away. I have a Mission EP-11-S expression pedal. It was all that Sweetwater had in stock when I bought my H9. This expression pedal...
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