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    Is out 3 at -10dBV or +4dBu?

    Thanks for that, I had the 3 output knob all the way up to record the dry track. I should on re-amping route the 'dry' track back to the 'instr' in on front or rear and not 2,3 or 4 inputs correct? Thanks again for the speedy reply.
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    Is out 3 at -10dBV or +4dBu?

    Hi, is out 3 at -10dBV or +4dBu? I have out 3 copy input 1 switched ON to give me an analogue re-amp feed for later on. It is running into a UAD Apollo 16 mk II via a line in over D-Sub. This line level can be changed to either -10dBV or +4dBu. Which should I set it to for my re-amp feed...
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    Have any of you reamped through the AES/EBU i/o?

    Hi, I have the Apollo 16 mk II which has AES/EBU and the Apollo 8P mk II which has lightpipe that can be switched to S/PDIF and there is an adapter for it. I think you may be correct about the digital output mirroring. That Loopback looks interesting as does the sister app Audio Hijack.
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    Have any of you reamped through the AES/EBU i/o?

    Hi, I have moved over to Universal Audio's Luna in place of ProTools. It is designed to integrate with their Apollo interfaces so I do not think I can use Axe Fx in the i/o count or setup an aggregate device i/o. So including Axe fx 3's USB i/o is not an option but I could use the AES i/o on...
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    Inexpensive active FRFRs: Headrush1212, Laney LFR112, QSC CP8, ISP FS8...

    I bought the Laney LFR today and should have it on Friday. I will be interested to see show it stacks up. I have two of the good LEM Titanium T4MA coaxial monitors here (not made now), I might stick the new Celestion F12 X200 into one of them if it fits to see how it fairs...........
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    Inexpensive active FRFRs: Headrush1212, Laney LFR112, QSC CP8, ISP FS8...

    Anyone try one of these yet? You could make a cab with a class D plate amp in it too as khvMX says here
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    Inexpensive active FRFRs: Headrush1212, Laney LFR112, QSC CP8, ISP FS8...

    Have any of you compared the Laney LFR to the CLR mk II?
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    Anyone A/B an Atomic CLR mkII and Laney LFR yet??

    Hi, I have seen a few threads relating to the Laney LFR 12" active FRFR cab but has anyone done an A/B test against the Atomic CLR mkII yet? link to laney https://www.laney.co.uk/products/frfr-lfr-112-active-cabinet I have the CLR mk II but might be in market for another cab for playing in...
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    AC-20 amp model producing a lot of hum??

    Hi Yek, sorry for the late reply. I lost track of time there wiring a studio outboard rack (it's 2am here). I'm using the treble 12AX7 model. I loaded it and all the AC-20 models few times and tried twin, AC30, Dr Z etc but only the AC 20 produced the hum. I'll try resetting amp block tomorrow...
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    AC-20 amp model producing a lot of hum??

    Hi, I am making a country guitar preset based on the Morgan AC-20 model and the AC-20 cab. When I use the amp model it produces a large hum. I have a new CLR mk II a few days and I thought it had developed a fault but lucky for me it only seems to be the AC20 models that bring on the hum. I...
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    Using External 1 to control IN 1 (INSTR) Volume , can a min/max range be set?

    Yes THAT one :DThanks for your reply and help. Ok, well I will use a volume block in the 1st grid slot so. Take care, Eugene.
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    Using External 1 to control IN 1 (INSTR) Volume , can a min/max range be set?

    Sorry Chris, my mistake ....... I mean the IN 1 (INSTR) volume found in the i/o CTRL page. It defaults to pedal 1 and I have an expression pedal plugged into that socket. Sorry for not being clearer and using incorrect term. I should not have called it In 1 (instr) volume. Can a min and max...
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    Using External 1 to control IN 1 (INSTR) Volume , can a min/max range be set?

    Hi Chris, No it's not a problem as such at all. It's just with my old rigs (tube amps) I got used to altering my tone or amount of overdrive from the guitar volume knob, I never used a volume pedal as it could cut you off completely if you heel back too far. The best way to describe it I guess...
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    Using External 1 to control IN 1 (INSTR) Volume , can a min/max range be set?

    Ok, I will look at that now, thanks
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    Using External 1 to control IN 1 (INSTR) Volume , can a min/max range be set?

    I could I suppose, but I'll try to modify it before the amp block first to see, I could use a volume block too I guess. Thanks
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    Using External 1 to control IN 1 (INSTR) Volume , can a min/max range be set?

    Hi, my AX8 defaults to the expression pedal connected to pedal 1 being assigned to the 'IN 1 (INSTR) volume' parameter. For years to cut down on what I was carrying to gigs I went the route of a tube amp and basically set the amp with a good overdrive tone then using the guitar's volume pot to...
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    A modifier on external 3 is turning a block off when it should not be?

    Yeah, that was it. Working now. That auto engage must 'auto engage' the whole block not just the function. Thanks
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    A modifier on external 3 is turning a block off when it should not be?

    That was fast!!! I will, what does it do, what does it actually engage the entire block?? I just added the preset..
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    A modifier on external 3 is turning a block off when it should not be?

    Hi, I am building a preset in the AX8 based around a factory preset modeled on Slash's Marshall, I think the preset called 'destructive appetite' or something. I assigned an external switch on external 3 and linked it to the 'boost' switch in the amp block. It works as it should BUT when I...
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    Help need urgently, can someone help me?

    Thanks all for the replies. I ended up using a Katana 100 on the gig which was just as well as the audience were falling in on top of us and our gear all night long and several pints spilled on the floor where floorboards were placed etc. We were on the same level as the dance floor as there...
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    Help need urgently, can someone help me?

    Hi all, I am getting ready to do a gig later and have a problem with my AX8. In the output block in the grid when I press edit to adjust the scene level there is a message being displayed as follows: OUT 1 BYPASSED. I use out 1 for FOH and out 2 for my FRFR wedge on stage. How do I take out...
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    Do you leave a 1U cooling space above your AXE FX III??

    Great stuff, just wanted to see. It will save me rack space :) Thanks all..............
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    Do you leave a 1U cooling space above your AXE FX III??

    Hi, I was wondering do you need to leave a 1U cooling space above your AXE FX III?? Is it ok to put it in a 4U rack with a power conditioner in the top slot above the AXE fx 3 (no spaces)? Just wanted to get some opinions. Don't see anything in user guide, but I may have missed it perhaps...
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    Delay block modifier link in 'bypass mode' window question?

    Hi, I have my delay block bypass assigned to external switch 4. This has means its switch button on the AX8 itself becomes inactive. I have noticed that with scene revert 'ON' the state of the delay block is not recalled when changing scenes when it is assigned to an external switch. Is this...
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Hi, yeah might do that and bring the DSP down. It’s a good preset
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Thanks to everyone for your input and help, thank you :)
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Ok, thanks, good to know where to aim for. I will change the input gain modifier to input trim and see if I get a change for the better, if not I'll use guitar knob, doesn't bother me as I used to that anyway so not an issue for me.
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    Line 6 Powercab

    I'm gonna try one of these but not available till May the stores tell me
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Another difference was I had OUT 2 which was sending signal to the amp cranked higher, but it hardly that.
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    What is a safe DSP limit for AX8 presets do you reckon? I'm probably pushing it too hard, I connected it up to AX8 edit and it sitting at 88% so must be too high then. When I use the external control it must be spiking it as you say but once I know that I will be kinder to the AX8 when building...
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Hi Chris, thanks for reply. One of the guys here mention something interesting that could be going on. It is very likely I was playing harder ( with more attack) during the actual performance than where I built and practiced with the preset, so that could be a change. Everything else was the...
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    I will try that or might just stick to the guitar volume pot instead.
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Hi, Nope and I used same guitar
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Hi. no I use the guitar's volume pot a lot to add grind or clean up the amount of gain , in addition to the scene controller on the input drive. I find I like doing it the old fashioned way from the guitar pot as it is easier to change on the fly, I just like the option of altering drive both...
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    The weird thing is the preset showed no signs of DSP shortage during 4 days of use including using the modifiers and DSP was at 80%
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    What do you use for backup if AX8 dies at gig?

    I have use the FlyRig PLEXI. It is very good. You can use your guitar volume, and the boost function on the FlyRig to alter sounds. It has a good reverb and a tap tempo delay too. I also have a good Zoom MultiStomp pedal which lets you use an amp sim, and up to six combined fx. You can tap tempo...
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    AX8 running out of DSP at gig but not during 4 days of testing??

    Hi, I built a preset during a few days for gigging at weddings. During the show we do not stop between songs as set list has been arranged to keep the audience dancing on the floor with no lull. So, I built a preset with a few scenes. The grid had a compressor, drive, amp, pitch, cab, delay and...
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    Can X/Y state of a block be assigned to an external switch?

    Hi Moke, and is that a global or preset based assignment? Thanks
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    Can X/Y state of a block be assigned to an external switch?

    Hi, looking at the amp block edit page in AX8 Edit I do not see a modifier link for the X/Y state of the block.........can I switch between X/Y in the amp block using say external switch 4? I can link the bright switch for example as it has a modifier link. I am aware I can do it with scenes...
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    In AX8 amp block X/Y problem???

    Sorted, I needed to right click the block in the grid itself, go to library and delete. Okey Dokey:)
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    In AX8 amp block X/Y problem???

    Think I have it figured.......... The block library preset contains the X and Y state info as well, am I correct? Can blocks library presets be deleted, if so where do I find them on a MAC?
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    In AX8 amp block X/Y problem???

    Hi all, In the AX8 edit shouldn't I be able to assign a different amp type or library patch to both the X and Y state of the amp block? I am making a patch and what is happening is in the X state l am using a VOX AC30 amp. When I click to the Y state and select a USA clean type, the amp block...
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    Beatles presets - Vox AC30 / AC50 tones

    Hi there, I'm running my AX8 into a Fender Excelsior amp with cab modeling and power amp sims on. The wee Excelsior is a13 watt open backed 15" in a very slim wooden frame, you could hardly call it an enclosure. It has a volume knob and an EQ switch for bright and dark and a tube tremolo...
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    Beatles presets - Vox AC30 / AC50 tones

    Boston-John, did you by any chance put your 8 Beatles presets on Axe Change? I would love to try them. I love the vox sound :)
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    Fractal-Bot not uploading presets??

    I erased all presets using the menu on the AX8 itself, downloaded the banks again from Fractal site and ran Fractal-Bot and it worked. This time I got the message on the computer screen ststing all presets would be overwritten. But, there was no indication of anything happening on the AX8 only...
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    Fractal-Bot not uploading presets??

    Hi, I have updated the firmware in the AX8 to the most recent version today, Fractal Bot has been updated also today. I have downloaded the most recent factory preset banks. When I attempt to load all the factory presets using fractal - bot I see the erasing and the programming in the screen in...
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    It would be fine for Acoustic grab and go gigs, has built in reverb and a Tonematch preset for acoustic and vocal. It would sound very clear and detailed for that kind of stuff.
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    Yeah, this would not be much beside a crazy man on a kit!!! :D
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    The optional battery pack they say will power it for 6 hours at full volume........... that would make me wonder......... as it is a small enough battery. If my former boss can get one for me, I should have it in few days and I'll know in few minutes of testing weather it up to the job. Again...
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    If I get one to test, I will let you know. It also depends on how 'clean' they stay as they approach their ceiling. You know, if you are using a clean patch, YOU should be the one to decide when it starts to overdrive NOT the bloody speaker you are plugged into LOL. I will ring this guy...
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    I would rather hear it with a 'mild gain' amp to better judge, I never judge a speaker on shred tones...........And again this is not 'real world' stage volumes during this performance, a real drum kit at full tilt is bloody loud, bass amp going etc. But, I like the weight and small footprint. I...
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    I will try to get one on test. But I found this : Have a look, it is a guy using it as backline at Namm
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    I'm the former Live Music product specialist for BOSE in Ireland. Bose do not disclose wattage but it's good for an audience of up to 50 people they say as a PA so should have plenty of poke for a guitar. They do not mention amp modellers in any info I have seen, more acoustic and voice. The...
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    New FRFR option: Bose S1 Pro Multi-Position Powered PA System?

    No, I can buy one right now in Germany :) https://www.thomann.de/ie/bose_s1_pro.htm?ref=search_prv_13
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    Celestion F12-X200 - new coaxial speaker for modelers

    Folks, this speaker will not be available until June. Just got email back from Marshall
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    Here are two power amps may give best of both FRFR and Real cab sounds

    emm............. I kinda trying to figure whether to get a CLR mk II or and amp and cab solution. The CLR is very VERY hard to acquire here in Europe. A dealer in UK was supposed to get them in week or so ago and I phoned and there another bloody delay with getting them in! It is hard to know...
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    Here are two power amps may give best of both FRFR and Real cab sounds

    Hi, wonder why they did not bring it out. It was supposed to have a switch for FRFR on it.
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    Here are two power amps may give best of both FRFR and Real cab sounds

    Hi, Fryette are bringing out a new 1U power amp that will function for FRFR and regular cabs: http://www.fryette.com/lxii-stereo-power-amp/ Synergy have a very similar Fryette designed one : http://synergyamps.com/index.php/hardware/syn5050 I think they are both very similar but the Fryette...
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    Celestion F12-X200 - new coaxial speaker for modelers

    Hi Fractal users, I was considering buying a CLR Neo mk II but they are £999 which is a lot. I have an AX8 and Axe FX 2 XL. There is also the new Headrush but it is not coaxial. I have read that the CLR Neo mk II is the best for use while programming fractal units so that your presets...
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    Volume pedal before AX8 or as an expression with volume block?

    Hi, is it possible to set the range of the pedal on the input volume?
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    Amps with input drive & overdrive knobs, can overdrive be CC'd?

    Hi, yeah prob get same only I read the overdrive knob does not alter the mid/hi content as the input trim does. Well, least I know now. Thanks for the reply :)
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    Amps with input drive & overdrive knobs, can overdrive be CC'd?

    Hi in the Carol Anne Tucana amp model the amp has an input drive and and overdrive knob. I was trying to link the overdrive knob to an external pedal to kick in extra drive for a boost rather than using the input drive but right clicking on it fails to open the modifier screen. Is it not...
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    Clapton's Bluesbreaker loaded with G12M or Alnico??

    Yeah, probably as close as I'll get. I wonder which speakers were actually in the amp, who knows?
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    Clapton's Bluesbreaker loaded with G12M or Alnico??

    I have just been reading a post from a forum regarding Clapton's 2x12 Bluesbreaker combo. It seems some folk are convinced he had to be using a bluesbreaker loaded with 2x Celestion Alnico speakers. The reissue Bluesbreaker has 2 x G12Ms. Here is the link to thread...
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    Using the AX8 can I control the AMP 'drive' with a pedal or switch?

    Ah , thanks for that. Wonder why that is. Thanks again.
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    Using the AX8 can I control the AMP 'drive' with a pedal or switch?

    Hi Benvigil, I got that working :) I noticed when looking at the parameter in the AX8 or AX8 edit the control moves but not the number, is this normal? Thanks
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    Using the AX8 can I control the AMP 'drive' with a pedal or switch?

    Hi, thanks for that. It is very handy indeed and easy to do! Great :)
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    Using the AX8 can I control the AMP 'drive' with a pedal or switch?

    Hi, is that on an AXE FX 2 XL or AX8?
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    Using the AX8 can I control the AMP 'drive' with a pedal or switch?

    Hi, I am building a patch here around the Band Commander and 2x15 doubleshow cab. Is it possible to control the Amp block 'drive' parameter with a switch on the AX8, and external switch 1-4 on rear of unit or a CC on an expression pedal? I do not see a control link icon for the parameter in...
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    Confused about Fender Dual Showman listing in Austin Buddy List??

    I think Jimi Hendrix did Electric Ladyland using one! I like them, the AxeFX model. I find it very useful with humbuckers for a Chuck Berry grind with the Dual Showman 2x15
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    Confused about Fender Dual Showman listing in Austin Buddy List??

    Ah, right so. Good to know. Thanks.
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    Confused about Fender Dual Showman listing in Austin Buddy List??

    Hi, I just noticed listed in the Austin Buddy 700 naked amps pack in the clean section the following: BF Dual Showman/ -CLN 68 Bandmaster-CLN I thought there was no Dual Showman model in the amp model list?? Or is it that he has matched a twin to a doubleshow cab? Any ideas??? Thanks.
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    Where should I place pedal type delays in signal path?

    Thanks all!!! I have a patch built around the twin reverb vibrato channel, not the SF one. Beginning to sound good over studio speakers but will wait till I try it through a few FRFR and amps to see how it sounds. I'm thinking of getting an Atomic neo clr mkII, a review I saw states it great...
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    Where should I place pedal type delays in signal path?

    Hi, I am working on a country guitar chicken pickin' patch. I am using the analog delay type, I think it is based on a pedal. I read somewhere that an analog delay pedal is best for country slapback. What I am wondering is should a 'delay pedal' type block be placed in front of the amp like in...
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    Is there a Standel amp model in Axe FX amp list?

    Hi, I am building a preset for country playing, I have being doing research and have found out only now about these old Standel amps a lot of players used in the day. Is there a Standel amp model in the AXE FX amp list, If not ............can we have one??
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    Best amp models for a country twang tone?

    Thanks all. I use several guitars but I bought the AX8 for work with a band I do weddings with. A Godin xtSA. It is HSH config and has a Piezo acoustic in it and I can play a Roland synth with it if I need to like a GR-55. I like the HSH on this it has some kind of coil tapping goin on though I...
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    Best amp models for a country twang tone?

    Thanks Geezer I will download it and load into the Ax8
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    Best amp models for a country twang tone?

    Yeah , you are right about the verb I have a few other units and the slapback is enough of an effect. I will try both :)
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    Best amp models for a country twang tone?

    Hi, I have to build a Country twangy chicken pickin type preset today on my AX8. I have the Austin Buddy pack too. I am thinking the following amp models will be the way forward for audition: Fender twin reverb Fender Deluxe reverb Dr. Z 38 Matchless DC30 Fender Band commander. I am...
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    700+ Naked Amps TonePack for AX8 Release

    Would anyone happen to know what would be the top 5 amps or presets in this list for clean country tones? My guess would be a Fender twin, deluxe reverb, Matchless DC30 and a Dr.Z 38 types perhaps. I would appreciate your input. I'm about to build a basic chicken pickin country patch on the AX8...
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    That might perhaps be a fault on the part of the guitar pickups being prone to induced interference rather than the Ax8. I will take my strat with kinman noiseless pickups next time and if I get the noise swap guitars. I wouldn't like to be blaming the Ax8 in the wrong while in fact it's the...
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    Ah, I will get to the bottom of it hopefully, but if it continues I will sell it on. I have always managed to eliminate these things until that night. When I play with this group we get to a wedding and after the wedding party are up from their tables following their meal we have to go 'hell...
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    Right? I didnt't know that, I always read it helps reduce squeal when using hi gain or at high volume. Ya, learn something every day!
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    Didn't do that on the night. But , the AX8 was quiet with no guitar plugged in....... noisy with guitar plugged in.......same guitar leads with FlyRig a little bit of noise. To give you an idea the 'interference' I would call it when the guitar was plugged into the Ax8 on scale 1-10 on a...
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    The Peavey KBA/300 amp I plugged into has a channel with HiZ switching which I engaged to check the Godin xtSA. It gave no noise. THe Dr.Z patch was a cleanish country tone. I guess it could be a problem with the wiring in the venue but when I replaced the AX8 with the FlyRig Plexi running...
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    I will try to get time to upload the main Dr. Z patch I was using one but it was doing this with others presets too. The unit with same guitar was not doing this at home where I programmed the unit . But as I explained the other guitarist had no issues with his HSH strat. The pickups in my...
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    Is the AX8 very susceptible to induced noise?

    Hi, I recently bought an Ax8. I have an Axe Fx 2 XL in the studio also but it never leaves it. I was playing at a wedding last night in Ireland and using the Ax8 main out 1 - L sent to the front of house PA via XLR. Out 2 was sent to an RCF Art 715 A mk II active cab for on stage monitoring...
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    I'm thinking of purchasing an AX8, do you reckon there could be a mkII soon?

    I bought one from G66, it will be with me Friday for gigs that night in Belfast and 2 further shows at d weekend :)
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    Just bought AX8 is there a MAC version of FracTool?

    Great, I will have a look for it. Thanks :)
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    Just bought AX8 is there a MAC version of FracTool?

    Hi, I have an Axe FX 2 XL but am waiting on an AX8 to arrive for grab and go gigs. Would any of you know is there a MAC version of the FracTool software ? Thanks, Gene
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    I'm thinking of purchasing an AX8, do you reckon there could be a mkII soon?

    That is kinda what I am thinking, using the rack unit in the studio and a floorboard one out live. I need to travel light when out as a pickup player, means I can unload from their vans quickly at the end of the night.
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    I'm thinking of purchasing an AX8, do you reckon there could be a mkII soon?

    Could you ask your magic ball for a release date? lol I was looking at these others too, the Atomic Amplifire 12, headrush etc but from what I have read the Fractal is still most like the real amps in terms of feel and sound.
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    I'm thinking of purchasing an AX8, do you reckon there could be a mkII soon?

    ha ha! I guess it's one of these things you have to take a chance on, but it's very annoying when that happens!! mmmmmm........ Might go for it
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    I'm thinking of purchasing an AX8, do you reckon there could be a mkII soon?

    Hi all, I am thinking of getting a AX8. I have an AXE FX II XL but need something handy to grab for gigs that come in - unexpected, I fill in on guitar and bass with groups who's guitarist or bassist is ill etc. Prior to buying my AXE FX II XL, I had only just purchased the MKII (without the...
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    Tone match electric guitar to acoustic guitar?

    Hi , I watched a YouTube video a while ago on how to tone match a Piezo pickup to the mic'd up tone from the same acoustic guitar. I can't find the video now. I seem to remember that when you do the tone matching and later wish to use the actual captured resulting curve (or is it the IR?) you...
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    Anyone using Red Sound Active cab for digital amps?

    Hi, just wondered is any Axe Fx user using the Active 12" cab by Red Sound with their Axe FX? If so, what is your opinion of it? Cheers, Eugene http://www.redsounditalia.com/en/prodotti/macrocategoria/music/categoria/active-cabinet/prodotto/6774/rs-lg12
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    Anyone using a Nova Acoustic KD12 as a monitor?

    Hi, I was wondering if anyone is using a NOVA acoustic KD12 active monitor with their Axe FX? It is like the Atomoc CLR in that there are more than one input channel (actually 3) so you can feed the Axe fx into it and a return aux feed from the PA mixer and a third one should you need it...
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