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heaven help me, I believe I am a moon landing hoax denier - when I think about what it would take to pull off such a hoax, I am convinced, more than ever, the hoax did not happen - and I'm sticking to it darn tootin! - no matter what anybody says!. I hope no-one throws eggs at my window due to my increasingly non mainstream beliefs 😁


edit: despite my beliefs, I love this movie - watched dozens of times: Elliot Gould, Telly Savalas, Hal Holbrook, O.J. Simpson, Brenda Vaccaro, Karen Black ... great cast (well maybe not OJ, and not just cuz of, y'know ... (bad actor))


loved it when it got out...
 
Any billionaire? Then why aren't they going? 😆
I certainly would go and n luxury if I had that kind of money. And gotta love Jeff Bezos going to space at mach 3. Ya that's some very believable escape velocity there. 🤡

Forget the moon, since humans have never even been to space I think it would be hard to get to the moon. Satellites and telescopes, perhaps in space, but not humans.

Again, I ask you, if humans have been to space then why still to the day there is still not a single 360 degree video shot in every direction up there? It would be very easy to prove and has been asked of NASA many times to which they are unable to provide for the spacewalks. And I'm not even so sure such videos even exist for the so called Unmanned devices in orbit now that I realize. Lol

And if conspiracies are outlandish, ok fine, but tell me why then do so many countries have to sign onto a treaty that bans people from going past a certain Antarctic circle in the Antarctica? What the hell are they hiding??

It's as if a person just asking question and not being naive somehow results in being ridiculed as some conspiracy nut when in reality I'm just asking questions, and witholding sure beliefs in anything till the evidence is good. And in many things I'm just not convinced. It's just too easy to spot trickery and that's why I've managed to stay afloat in my industry to not get taken advantage of. No different standards and it's resulted in my operations surviving past the point where many businesses went bankrupt during the scamdemic. It was a very savage playing field to survive in what I do based on raw material costs.
You sir, are a waste of my time. Total nonsense. How sad for you. Go away. wait, I'll go away. You stay and continue your fantasy (or lies is it?)
 
Any billionaire? Then why aren't they going? 😆
I certainly would go and n luxury if I had that kind of money. And gotta love Jeff Bezos going to space at mach 3. Ya that's some very believable escape velocity there. 🤡

Forget the moon, since humans have never even been to space I think it would be hard to get to the moon. Satellites and telescopes, perhaps in space,

So the space stations a hoax too? I think you’re just trolling here. And on other threads.
 
So the space stations a hoax too? I think you’re just trolling here. And on other threads.

Not sure how you would think that I am trolling. I just stated my opinion and why I don't buy certain things.
Just show me one 360 degree video, all directions from a camera in orbit or space walk and then what is there for me to troll?
If it looks good I wouldn't need to. It doesn't benefit me to be stuck to any particular belief without wantin to budge. I actually prefer to believe in planets and space. And still do think we live on a sphere but I shared a video with very compelling evidence discovered that the earth is not as curved to the scale that Google earth shows us and there could be a different narrative which may have been hidden from us.
I also responded to moon landing stuff. I don't care if anyone believes it, but I really have no compelling reason to buy into it.
As for covid, I just quipped a couple things man. It wasn't trolling.
But if you really want to know what I think about that then I can tell you my first hand experience - which was being very pissed off witth all the people tossing used discarded masks on the ground n appropriately so I decided to volunteer to pick up used discarded masks in public and many other places and stll do, and I never once wore gloves or a mask while doing so. I probable picked up a few tens of thousands of masks to correctly dispose of.
I knew it was a scam from the first day.
Do you have any more concerns or questions?
 
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There are people who can't seem to wrap their head around the idea that there are others who are far more intelligent, wiser and smarter than they are. If they're not able to understand or figure out how something was done, then no one else can so it must not be true or possible. Put together a group of smart, intelligent specialists with a single purpose and it's astonishing what can be achieved.

They also seem to look at historical events or massive projects, like building the pyramids, through the lens of their culture and current technology. I read something awhile back by someone stating they believe the pyramids were built with extraterrestrial assistance. Their premise was the intense labor that would have been required and how there was no way a large group of people would have accepted the harsh working conditions and that overall morale would have been very low. The only beings that could possess the technology required and necessary intelligence would have to be extraterrestrials/aliens.

I have my own thoughts on extraterrestrials and UFOs but do know the earth is a sphere and that we did go to the moon.
 
Looked into him:

"Pais's patents flow as an intimidating river of mumbo-jumbo that most trained physicists would recognize as nonsense, although many might simply disengage in confusion, and there are always some who might even be credulous. Of what, however, is hard to say, as it is not really clear what Pais is even claiming, apart from the room-temperature superconductor which, if it were true, would be huge news."

There's an hour + long interview, on YouTube, with Dr. Pais himself, further explaining and cementing his ideas. Highly recommended. A lot more palatable to understand as opposed to a hungry journalist who's unable to comprehend theoretical Aerospace Engineering by reading a few articles in preparation for their hit piece.
 
My mother in law didn’t belive in COVID either until she had to be flown to Palm Springs, suffering four heart attacks because of it just because some twat on TV and the internet convinced her that she shouldn’t get vaccinated and was “smarter than all them sheep” If …IF she believed differently.

She wanted - as so many people do - to believe she was smarter than current scientific consensus. Hey, I get it, I do, it’s a healthy boost to the ego to believe something like that. Without any work, without any discipline, she arrived at a contrary view. Making her so much smarter than The Majority.

.,. and that’s the “harm in it.

Conspiracy theorists dwell in a sense of cheap genius. They don’t earn knowledge to the contrary, they are not part of any process of actual scientific discovery, they don’t put in any actual work into proving scientific consensus wrong. They pull any uncertainties from science they can find and then scream that those uncertainties and inconsistencies are proof of some nefarious plot to deceive “them” and “all of mankind!”, and that those uncertainties - obviously - negates the entirety of all known scientific discovery, because those uncertainties exist. And, Oh Boy! How smart are They for discovering said uncertainties!!

…Either that or they just make shit up - guess at a thing, either way their job is done - they get to pat themselves on their collective backs, congratulating themselves for being ‘smarter than‘, negating billions of combined hours of real effort - calling anybody who respects the process of scientific discovery and consensus “sheep” or “ignorant“.

It’s cheap genius, and it’s never earned …it’s a desperate form of ego inflation - encouraged by some for selfish gain. It is also killing people and slowing forward movement for the entirety of humanity. Yes. There is harm in it.

Is there something wrong in thinking outside a box? Absolutely not. But there is somehting utterly ridiculous in just taking an opposing view to scientific consensus by way of offering-up zero in the way of critical scientific review to which proves to a greater degree that some theory is correct, before stating “I’m right” and alluding that everyone else is ignorant.

Actual science is a journey. A journey to greater knowledge. It isn’t certainty. It’s working to find greater degrees of certainty. And that process isn’t as idiotic as publishing or reading some farcical crap posted on Facebook full of snippets of this and that and calling ‘that’ proof of the opposite.

Yes there are holes in what we currently know. We all know that. But these guys actually working on finding a truth, these actual scientists, they work together through combined processes to find greater degrees of certainty based on better theories that fit. They don’t just listen to some crackpot on the radio and declare themselves “correct” and “enlightened“ for parroting the idiotic nonsense they have heard.

“Dark matter” and the rest of those elusive place holders - used until we find the peices that bring a picture into better focus. These things aren’t proof of some plot. It’s the loose defining a “something” that affects movement and which we cannot more clearly define and cannot currently observe. And these actual scientists? …They’ll figure it out. In your lifetime or mine, it doesn’t matter! That’s the greatest thing about all this, the fact that we Don’t know it all. The scientific community work their whole lives trying to figure this stuff out, discarding what doesn’t fit for what does until all the math and physics better align to a better degree.

….And then along comes another thing…

.. and before a person can say ”Ahhh, but “that other thing” is PROOF “a- and ..th-the MATH” …. WE KNOW! Anybody who actually gives a damn past basic understanding of high-school science knows that that which works for some theories breaks down at some point. But that’s the journey.

What we don’t know isn’t the enemy out to make fools of everyone on 4chan. What we don’t know are obstacles in journeys to greater understanding, and it’s what drives us to find greater degrees of knowledge. Knowledge, that thing which has created all the technology, all the medical breakthroughs, and all the materially manufactured goods that we use today.

That is what all this searching has given us. “Everything”. Computers. Faster computers, the internet, plastic, the internal f’cking combustion engine and what powers it.

…and to belittle the journey, and discount all the scientific consensus and the discipline it took to get where we are doesn’t make a person a genius, or enlightened, it does a disservice to us all.
 
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My mother in law didn’t belive in COVID either until she had to be flown to Palm Springs, suffering four heart attacks because of it just because some twat on TV and the internet convinced her that she she shouldn’t get vaccinated and was “smarter than all them sheep” If …IF she believed differently.

She wanted - as so many people do - to believe she was smarter than current scientific consensus. Hey, I get it, I do, it’s a healthy boost to the ego to believe something like that. Without any work, without any discipline, she arrived at a contrary view. Making her so much smarter than The Majority.

.,. and that’s the “harm in it.

Conspiracy theorists dwell in a sense of cheap genius. They don’t earn knowledge to the contrary, they are not part of any process of actual scientific discovery, they don’t put in any actual work into proving scientific consensus wrong. They pull any uncertainties from science they can find and then scream that those uncertainties and inconsistencies are proof of some nefarious plot to deceive “them” and “all of mankind!”, and that those uncertainties - obviously - negates the entirety of all known scientific discovery, because those uncertainties exist. And, Oh Boy! How smart are They for discovering said uncertainties!!

…Either that or they just make shit up - guess at a thing, either way their job is done - they get to pat themselves on their collective backs, congratulating themselves for being ‘smarter than‘, negating billions of combined hours of real effort - calling anybody who respects the process of scientific discovery and consensus “sheep” or “ignorant“.

It’s cheap genius, and it’s never earned …it’s a desperate form of ego inflation - encouraged by some for selfish gain. It is also killing people and slowing forward movement for the entirety of humanity. Yes. There is harm in it.

Is there something wrong in thinking outside a box? Absolutely not. But there is somehting utterly ridiculous in just taking an opposing view to scientific consensus by way of offering-up zero in the way of critical scientific review to which proves to a greater degree that some theory is correct, before stating “I’m right” and alluding that everyone else is ignorant.

Actual science is a journey. A journey to greater knowledge. It isn’t certainty. It’s working to find greater degrees of certainty. And that process isn’t as idiotic as publishing or reading some farcical crap posted on Facebook full of snippets of this and that and calling ‘that’ proof of the opposite.

Yes there are holes in what we currently know. We all know that. But these guys actually working on finding a truth, these actual scientists, they work together through combined processes to find greater degrees of certainty based on better theories that fit. They don’t just listen to some crackpot on the radio and declare themselves “correct” and “enlightened“ for parroting the idiotic nonsense they have heard.

“Dark matter” and the rest of those elusive place holders - used until we find the peices that bring a picture into better focus. These things aren’t proof of some plot. It’s the loose defining a “something” that affects movement and which we cannot more clearly define and cannot currently observe. And these actual scientists? …They’ll figure it out. In your lifetime or mine, it doesn’t matter! That’s the greatest thing about all this, the fact that we Don’t know it all. The scientific community work their whole lives trying to figure this stuff out, discarding what doesn’t fit for what does until all the math and physics better align to a better degree.

….And then along comes another thing…

.. and before a person can say ”Ahhh, but “that other thing” is PROOF “a- and ..th-the MATH” …. WE KNOW! Anybody who actually gives a damn past basic understanding of high-school science knows that that which works for some theories breaks down at some point. But that’s the journey.

What we don’t know isn’t the enemy out to make fools of everyone on 4chan. What we don’t know are obstacles in journeys to greater understanding, and it’s what drives us to find greater degrees of knowledge. Knowledge, that thing which has created all the technology, all the medical breakthroughs, and all the materially manufactured goods that we use today.

That is what all this searching has given us. “Everything”. Computers. Faster computers, the internet, plastic, the internal f’cking combustion engine and what powers it.

…and to belittle the journey, and discount all the scientific consensus and the discipline it took to get where we are doesn’t make a person a genius, or enlightened, it does a disservice to us all.

Glad to know that she recovered from the episode.

For that reason, some pandemic deniers should also face the music for their irresponsibility

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+1 wrt harm - there is likely a huge opportunity cost to society becoming so (inexplicably) preoccupied with BS, and the resources it takes to deal with it.
 
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