Thank you for the information. It is certainly an exciting time to be a Fractal owner.I've already made up my mind. If an amp has an MV taper of greater than 15A the model's taper will be 15A otherwise it will match the amp.
I.e., a Blues Jr. has an MV taper that is linear (which is ridiculous). The model's taper will therefore be 15A.
There are a handful of exceptions, i.e. Camerons have linear taper MV and you need it with them because the signal level into the power amp is very low due to the Jose topology.
I've gone back and forth between 10A and 15A though. Still debating.
I agree. I recognize that FAS decides regardless of any poll. And I certainly think that is the way it should be. I figured I'd make a poll just to have MV opinions in one place. If this thread is superfluous then I suppose it should be taken down? Not suggesting anything, as I am not a mod, just like to contribute to discussion.Personally, I don't think a poll matters. Opinions have already been stated, and FAS decides, regardless of the poll.
Its an interesting discussion for sure and there seems to be equal votes on both sides sounds like Cliff is doing a little bit of bothI agree. I recognize that FAS decides regardless of any poll. And I certainly think that is the way it should be. I figured I'd make a poll just to have MV opinions in one place. If this thread is superfluous then I suppose it should be taken down? Not suggesting anything, as I am not a mod, just like to contribute to discussion.
No, quite the opposite.Its an interesting discussion for sure and there seems to be equal votes on both sides sounds like Cliff is doing a little bit of both
so i wonder would most modern hingain be linear like SLO , Recto
TC100 , Bogner
I know it's your decision and I totally respect your choices... But, from a support perspective I think this is even more confusing than what we've had until now.I've already made up my mind. If an amp has an MV taper of greater than 15A the model's taper will be 15A otherwise it will match the amp.
I.e., a Blues Jr. has an MV taper that is linear (which is ridiculous). The model's taper will therefore be 15A.
There are a handful of exceptions, i.e. Camerons have linear taper MV and you need it with them because the signal level into the power amp is very low due to the Jose topology.
I've gone back and forth between 10A and 15A though. Still debating.
It's been discussed elsewhere why that's a bad idea...Or a global option: set to 'idealized' or 'authentic'?
In a nutshell, it would play havoc either switching the setting or sharing presets.Ah ok, sorry, did not see that.
Makes sense.In a nutshell, it would play havoc either switching the setting or sharing presets.
Even if that were possible I think it would be incredibly confusing...But what about two master volumes each on the authentic and the ideal page? The latest adjusted sets the value.
This also brings the point that we are at a point in technology where there are people here who have never EVEN PLAYED A REAL TUBE AMP!!I like Cliff's approach of using an authentic taper where it makes sense, and an idealized taper in cases where the real amp's taper is hard to work with. I may be an outlier here, but of all the real amps I've played through, only one or two of them are modeled in the Axe-Fx. (And one of those doesn't even have a MV in real life.) Also, I don't adjust any amp settings based on what I've read or seen in videos. So if the MV taper on the Sealclubber 5000+ model doesn't match the real amp, I would neither know nor care. I'm just going to adjust it until I get the sound I want, and if I can't get a workable sound within a few minutes, I'll move on to a different amp model or IR.
Oddly enough, all those people that have never played the real amps manage to grasp the authentic knobs for every other control that's carried over from the amps.This also brings the point that we are at a point in technology where there are people here who have never EVEN PLAYED A REAL TUBE AMP!!
Yes, it sounds incredulous, but players today are playing through Kempers, Helixes and Axe Fxs
Can you imagine the amount of 'possible bug!' threads and support cases when these players realize that the controls don't make sense?
Look at the current beta thread - people who HAVE played these amps are asking why the presence knob doesn't do anything past 1, or why there are ghost notes.....the real amp has it, sure, but these are seen by almost ALL as undesirable, even players who have used the real thing. Can you imagine how jarring and silly it would seem to someone who never played a tube amp before, upgrades to an axe fx from their toaster, and has to struggle with trying to increment a dial from 0.9 to 1.1 without waking up the neighborhood? They would likely pick back up their toaster and dial in a knob that made sense. It's not authentic, but who wants to deal with twiddly fiddly fickle knobs when all the other devices offer easier to dial in, non-authentic tones?
The poll reflects this too - only 20% here care to have 'the good old knob', even if it's a pain to dial in, and 80% prefer (or don't care) ideal, easier to dial in controls that make sense
Thank God for Cliff, who found a way to give us BOTH!