Idea...! What if endorsed ARTIST'S created patches....?

I download Mark Day's patches and I sound nothing like him. Like not even one note.

I would say it's 99% personal style and expression and 1% other stuff of which 'sound' is a component.

But it's not a moral issue, if someone doesn't want to share, its their prerogative so what's to argue about?
 
I download Mark Day's patches and I sound nothing like him. Like not even one note.

I would say it's 99% personal style and expression and 1% other stuff of which 'sound' is a component.

But it's not a moral issue, if someone doesn't want to share, its their prerogative so what's to argue about?

I agree 100%, the primary value I get from other patches is just figuring out the thought process that went into it. My guitar, pickups, and monitors (or cab) are different than the equipment used when creating the original patch, so they never sound the same. I'm thankful for sharing patches, but not because it allows me to sound exactly like someone.
 
My mane is goal is individuality. I don't think there is any expectation in reality to sound just like an artist. Its more of a here, see how close this is and how its setup. close.

Im all for it.
 
I download Mark Day's patches and I sound nothing like him. Like not even one note.

I would say it's 99% personal style and expression and 1% other stuff of which 'sound' is a component.

But it's not a moral issue, if someone doesn't want to share, its their prerogative so what's to argue about?

I sounded EXACTLY like him ! ... I just couldn't get the facial expressions right.... ;-)
 
I guess sharing patches is kinda like sharing food recipes... You may get all the ingredients right, but it will taste differently because there are so many other variables, including human factors. I just hope our endorsed artists will be cool enough to see it that way and give us the damn patches! ;)
 
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I'm totally down for this, as I think many users would agree.
This would really send it over the edge and accentuate the grasp of the products niche market selling demographic.
(Plus make life a bit easier for me.)

Alas..... I'm more than happy with the cured gas syndrome.

Totally agree. A while back when I got the first Line6 slider valve tube head I was pleased with the wealth of patches they had by song/artist. While the sound was not perfect it was nice nonetheless and gave me personally a chance to play for once and not spend days tweaking. It sure would be nice.
 
hussamd

Thanks for making my point as clear as possible.
While I was pretty happy with my Lone6 PodX3 Pro, and used it exclusively until I got the Ultra.
As far As Line6 and their Pods go;
Though far from nearly perfect, I have yet to see anything or anyone offer something so completely well organized, as reference to this topic.
I more than expect to have something, or my expectations exceeded from Fractal in the near future.
Lastly, Line6 has much more of everything, but it's not necessarily needed. I could use a bit more bass stuff on my Ultra though, it's far too limited.
Personal opinions wise, I don't think you can beat the layout design that shows you an actual amp, pedal, rever, delay, etc....and it's knobs, bla bla....
 
The main thing I get from shared patches is the knowledge of how the effects can be stitched together to produce killer tones. I know I will never sound like Petrucci or Metallica or ... but it makes the learning curve smaller to master the Axe effects.

I don't care if the artists do not want to share their patches. There are a lot of smart people out there that can reproduce it if they wanted to. I loved Mark Day's patches but I soon found myself tweaking it to my taste. I appreciate his sharing and it only serves to increase my product knowledge.

The way I see it is we all have different goals musically speaking. If you are an original artist you may not want to share your tone. That's cool. Some of us just want to play in a cover band or just goof around the bedroom playing our favorite songs. The latter group benefits from shared presets and free us to play. To each his own.

I have had a brilliant mentor that always taught me that knowledge should be shared. I am not talking about trade secrets. When you can share you should. It enriches all of us in the end since others will improve upon your ideas and collectively we will all benefit.
 
The main thing I get from shared patches is the knowledge of how the effects can be stitched together to produce killer tones. I know I will never sound like Petrucci or Metallica or ... but it makes the learning curve smaller to master the Axe effects.

I don't care if the artists do not want to share their patches. There are a lot of smart people out there that can reproduce it if they wanted to. I loved Mark Day's patches but I soon found myself tweaking it to my taste. I appreciate his sharing and it only serves to increase my product knowledge.

The way I see it is we all have different goals musically speaking. If you are an original artist you may not want to share your tone. That's cool. Some of us just want to play in a cover band or just goof around the bedroom playing our favorite songs. The latter group benefits from shared presets and free us to play. To each his own.

I have had a brilliant mentor that always taught me that knowledge should be shared. I am not talking about trade secrets. When you can share you should. It enriches all of us in the end since others will improve upon your ideas and collectively we will all benefit.

Great post, hussamd.
 
That old story of Van Halen playing through Ted Nugent's setup comes to mind.
 
So I've been reading through this thread... One poster in here reminds me of a guy I worked with a long time ago. Used to keep all his knowledge under cover and not share info with the rest of the folks in the department thinking it would be job security and give him leverage when a mere mortal would ask for his assistance. LOL - he was the first to be escorted to the exit when it came time to cut people.

I didn't realize that patches were magical and made you also also play, think, and compose like the people that created the patches. OMG - maybe those should be encrypted and protected in a patch vault. We don't want those getting out for sure. :)

BTW - I rarely share my patches cuz I think they suck and want to avoid ridicule.
 
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Protecting something that's yours should be not ridiculed. Honestly, [most] anyone who is good at what they do holds back some information. Only a fool gives it all away. In this world we need to make money. If every kid on the street could sound like you—that is if you were a professional—fewer people would buy your album. Simple politics for a world full of idiots.
 
Protecting something that's yours should be not ridiculed. Honestly, [most] anyone who is good at what they do holds back some information. Only a fool gives it all away. In this world we need to make money. If every kid on the street could sound like you—that is if you were a professional—fewer people would buy your album. Simple politics for a world full of idiots.

You have a point, but the bigger issue is that getting the right patch is no guarantee someone will sound identical. There are many variables in the equation from guitars all the way to the skill of the player. I can spend all the money in the world to be setup as John Petrucci but there is no way I'll be able to play like him or compose music, etc. That gift belongs to the select few and is in no danger of being copied.

Again, it is a free country and all of us can share or not. It's cool...

As for Kracked story about the guy that horded knowledge I can identify. These types of people do not make good team players. In any company, being a team player and adequate trumps being brilliant and an orifice...
 
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