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@York Audio is there a pack you’d recommend to pair with an Engl amp? I wasn’t all that impressed with the Engl cab pack I got from one of your competitors.
That's a tricky one. I've never been able to connect with ENGL amps or models... too fizzy and compressed for my own taste, so I would only be guessing on what might work for you. Maybe the MES 412 OS-V2 or the MES 212 V30? Those are awesome cabs for anything heavy. The speakers in ENGL 4x12s are front-loaded, which gives the cab less low end and more mids. The only front-loaded cab I currently offer is the VH+ 412 P50E.
FullRes means that it can read more that 180ms (I think that's what UltraRes reads), so you can load any Room IR in a FullRes slot to get more room ambience in your tone. Most of them are mono Room captures.
Awesome, thank you! I love the factory full res for greenbacks and Mesa so good to know what base IRs pair with them
You can definately find a solution with the York IRs.
I definitely would be all over that. I’ve been using the Atomica High model with the Blackjack pack for a year or two. I recently revisited the Engl Savage model for the first time since firmware 27 and my goodness, it is filthy. The Mesa pack is a trusty dumb-reach, but a front-loaded cab might be cool. I believe Fortin builds their cabs like that too, and that is pretty much the tone I am after (I was using the Atomica to mimic the Fortin Meshuggah). Thanks for the response!!
Yes, to everything.I mostly use York Audio IRs, so I figured I would start this talk here since it's Axe iii/FM9 and York related, but I wanted to talk tone!
I would not say I'm a great mixing engineer; I do mixing work for friends and some clients and record guitars for sessions. One thing I've learned from mixing is that everything affects everything frequency wise. For example, of course having too much bass and upper bass in a mix can make a mix sound muddy, BUT, it can also make things sound harsh if your midrange is not right either. In other words, the contrast of lower frequencies can actually bring focus to the highs if the mids aren't correct. This can go in all sorts of directions obviously. You can add that low end and go "hey, this sounds nice and full!", but then realize that maybe your high end sounds scratchy or harsh. So, what usually becomes the first thing to do? You usually try to tame the high end. You tame the high end, and now what? Other problem frequencies along with a murky sound and weird resonances get revealed now, when maybe the issue was the midrange. Maybe you needed to bring out more midrange to balance the lows to highs etc.
Now, I'm relating this to crafting guitar tones. I find there is a fine line (for me) between having your guitar sound like a radio because "BaSs DoEsn't beLONG IN thE GuITAR!!! THAt'S wHAT thE BASs IS FoR!!!!" or so the saying goes hahah or having too much low end. I have a tendency to use a little too much low end sometimes, but when I want "clarity", turning up the treble is what seems to happen first, which then results in a not OVERLY scooped sound, but a sound that has the "loudness" effect more so, at least this is how my ear perceives this, which that type of tone is not ideal to me, yet I generally dial in things that way, or tend to over compensate making the tone too "specific" at which point can be difficult to glue into a mix.
Do you guys relate to this at all? I'm trying to be cognizant of having enough bass in the tone because lets face it, bass matters to the weight of a guitar tone; it's important. However, TOO much can make the high end sound more scratchy, sizzly and stiff IF the midrange is not correct too. I find it's a fine balance when dialing things in properly, especially to fit in a mix. It's such an art, and a difficult one at that hahah
Don't get me wrong; Fractal has made it so easy to get great tones fast, but I feel that as an aspiring engineer, I need to develop my ear even more to get that last 5-10% at the source as opposed to relying on that in the mix.
I recently recorded some Fractal AC 30 Brilliant tones with the YORK AC30 pack, and while it worked for the mix in the long run, I think these tones may demonstrate the struggle I have a bit, so maybe I'll post a stereo mix of the raw guitars to hear everyone's thoughts (maybe the mixed version too) and include the preset as well (minus the IR of course). I'd love to hear feedback on it and this topic in general!
What he said ^^^Yes, to everything.
Got ya! The struggle is real!Yes, to everything.
Got ya! I feel like this is confirming my observations in my tone searching and dialing in! I'm hoping to hear more people's experiences as well as Justin's and how they dial in their tones and what they've noticed and hot to mitigate what they don't like etc.!
What v30 IR is that exactly?
Got ya! Definitely need to listen, which I am guilty of listening with my eyes for sure hahah I feel like that's where I'm trying to balance things; if it's not too honky in the mids, then its too boom and sizzly / whistley city. I probably make too exaggerated moves where all I need to do is one notch adjustments.
I've been doing this for years with good results.
While we're making wishes for the York Audio site, there's also no easy way to see the packs you do or don't own.
