Do you set up your own guitars?

I've just been dabbling in it. I am going to do more.

I am currently upgrading the Floyd on my Anderson Pro Am. It's getting a big brass block, brass trem stopper (dive only), silent springs, and a string change from 10 to 9.5 gauge.

I need to get better at intonating a guitar. I bought a small tool that is supposed to make it easier on a floyd bridge. I haven't tried it out yet.
 
I can adjust the action, intonation, and truss rod of my guitars... Beyond that (pickups, electronics, hardware, frets), I'd rather have a pro do it. I don't have the time, patience, skill, or space or tools for a workshop to do those things. I was only so-so in woodshop so....
 
I can, but often find that my OCD gets a bit out of control and I am never content. Sorta like dialing in presets for the AxeFx haha. Gary Brawer is also 20 minutes driving distance from me. So I have him set up my guitars every once in a while.
Technically, it’s “CDO”. It should be in alphabetical order. Thank-you.
 
Never had the time before so I just took new or out of wack guitars to the local shop for initial setups. Just recently picked up a new bridge and tremolo for a Jaguar and decided to install them and do the setup myself. I recently retired and built a little wood shop in the garage so time, space and tools are no issue. With the recommendations of members here I picked up the Dan Erlewine book and a couple little speciality tools and never looked back. The Jag plays like butter now.

In hindsight, I cannot believe I never took the time to learn the steps to properly set up my guitars. Now I am going to go through all of them and adjust accordingly. The tinkering kind of gave me the inkling to build one from scratch now too.
 
Yes, for about 2 years now (ever since my guitar collection started to grow) except for my acoustics. Getting them all set up would be prohibitively expensive, and I've never been quite satisfied with any setup done by another person with the exception of the luthier I bought my Ibanez J.Custom from. I don't know what he did or if it's just the guitar, but it plays amazing.

Once you learn the principles of how a setup works and what all the adjustments are, it's not that difficult to do yourself and only requires a few basic tools. Sometimes I'll be playing and notice a little something bugging me and just be able to fix it by adjusting a saddle or bridge post or the truss rod.

I also do all my own guitar electronics, everything from minor things to a full overhaul / replacement of the parts. I went through a couple of inexpensive Fenders to practice and once I was pretty confident in it I've done more complicated setups with super switches, John Paul Jones wiring, Fishman Fluence, etc. I guess having an electrical engineering degree helps a bit too...
 
Adjusting the truss-rod, action and intonation is not complicated at all. Everyone should try it. Nowadays there are many step-by-step tutorials.

The most intrusive work I've made is installing Ghost Piezo Saddles with the Acousti-Phoni Preamp and the Hexpander Preamp. I had to route the guitar to accommodate the battery and to install the 13-pin connector.

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All this talk about I do not have the tools or tools are expensive. I did my first fret level with a sharpie, steel wool, carpenters level with 320 grit sand paper rapped around it(still do this today) and masking tape. My first refret job, the only tools I used was a pair of end nips, claw hammer, block of wood, triangle file, sand paper, masking tape, sharpie marker. All those fancy tools make it easy, but they are not needed if you have a little imagination. Buy a cheap pawn shop guitar and have a go, if it turns out try on a little more expensive guitar.
Can it be done without diamond files? Small repairs yes, but not a 37 year old guitar that’s on it’s 3rd and final fret resurfacing. It takes 16 hours with the right tools.

Try to remove grooves, and reprofile frets that have large flat areas with sandpaper?
even if you can the accuracy will be way off.
Cant imagine going from 320 right to steel wool either.

The goal to me, is to make the guitar as good as new, and set it up as well as any custom shop.

I check the whole neck w a fret rocker, and digital depth caliper first.
I use a diamond Stew Mac Zfile and or center file to re-crown the frets first, otherwise the intonation will be horrible. Ever play a guitar that’s in tune with an open G, but a s soon as you play open D it’s not? That’s what RE-crowning fixes. It’s from all those 2nd fret bends and squeals, but it also happens all over the neck.

After that I calculate how many hundredths, I can remove from all 24 frets to have one even plane, without removing too much fret wire.

Thats when a sharpie and a radius profile block come in. Different radius block for every guitar. I start with self adhesive 220 grit, then 320, then 400, until the frets are one continuous plane.

I reprofile the frets again, lightly, then switch to a special fret end file.

Back to the sharpie, but this time 320, to 400, to 600, to 800, to 1000 grit self adhesive sandpaper.

After that, fret erasers starting with 400 grit, 600, 800, 1200, 2000, 4000, finally 8000 !

One last pass with special fret polish, and the frets look like glass.

I just restored a 37 year old Carvin DC200, and it plays like new. The action is very low without a single buzz anywhere.

minimum of $800 in tools to do it right, lots of time, a massive mess of filings to clean up at every step, all while protecting the guitar. Re-fretting is A lot more expensive tool wise. A good press, with profiled jigs Just for starters. it’s not fun, and it’s very easy to make critical mistakes. I’ve got plenty of practice, and made all my mistakes 25 years ago on cheap guitars.
 
I have to do adjustments on this new arrival:
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It is going from E to Eb and from 10-46 to 9-46.
 
I have to do adjustments on this new arrival:
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It is going from E to Eb and from 10-46 to 9-46.
Sweet! SE245?
you,won’t have to do much to that. notched straight edge, and feeler gauge on the 7th fret. 0.20 - 0.25 mm relief and you’ll be able to do one handed legato runs
 
I spent a few hours yesterday setting up this beast... removed a trem spring and changed the tuning to EAEADGBE. If you think doing a setup on a floating trem is a pain on a 6 string... it's nothing compared to doing it on an 8 string. My fingers are blistered from turning those tuning pegs so much. In hindsight I should have used a screwdriver on the ends, but I didn't really notice the blistering till after I was done.

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Sweet! SE245?
you,won’t have to do much to that. notched straight edge, and feeler gauge on the 7th fret. 0.20 - 0.25 mm relief and you’ll be able to do one handed legato runs
Always wanted a prs, but the next guitar is going to be a Carvin/Kiesel DC600, dual humbuckers with split coil taps, Gold Floyd Rose, and hardware, Maple body, maple 5 piece neck...... I cannot wait
 
Yeah, i'm a tinkerer at heart, love fiddling with stuff.... getting it to work right..
 
I spent a few hours yesterday setting up this beast... removed a trem spring and changed the tuning to EAEADGBE. If you think doing a setup on a floating trem is a pain on a 6 string... it's nothing compared to doing it on an 8 string. My fingers are blistered from turning those tuning pegs so much. In hindsight I should have used a screwdriver on the ends, but I didn't really notice the blistering till after I was done.

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Wow, what a beautiful guitar!!!
 
Sweet! SE245?
you,won’t have to do much to that. notched straight edge, and feeler gauge on the 7th fret. 0.20 - 0.25 mm relief and you’ll be able to do one handed legato runs
SE something. EDIT: "SE Standard 24". It's blue, and it plays and sounds really good. :)

I usually eyeball it so that the relief is about the same as the thickness of the skinny E (0.009"), which falls right in there.

Generally I fret at the 1st fret and at the fret nearest the body joint and use the string as a straight edge. :)
 
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SE something. It's blue, and it plays and sounds really good. :)

I usually eyeball it so that the relief is about the same as the thickness of the skinny E (0.009"), which falls right in there.

Generally I fret at the 1st fret and at the fret nearest the body joint and use the string as a straight edge. :)
That can work in a pinch, and a .0009” string is very close as well. Looks a little like Leon Todd’s guitar
 
I'm working on getting this guitar next. I'll practice setup on this one, too.

I've been wanting a V. They are perfect for playing in a classical sitting position. This is one of Jackson's Pro Series priced at $799. The Jackson USA KIng V is out of my price range right now. This one has a lot of features I like. I don't care for painted necks for example. Locking tuners, JB/59 pickups. Etc.

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Can it be done without diamond files? Small repairs yes, but not a 37 year old guitar that’s on it’s 3rd and final fret resurfacing. It takes 16 hours with the right tools.

Try to remove grooves, and reprofile frets that have large flat areas with sandpaper?
even if you can the accuracy will be way off.
Cant imagine going from 320 right to steel wool either.

The goal to me, is to make the guitar as good as new, and set it up as well as any custom shop.

I check the whole neck w a fret rocker, and digital depth caliper first.
I use a diamond Stew Mac Zfile and or center file to re-crown the frets first, otherwise the intonation will be horrible. Ever play a guitar that’s in tune with an open G, but a s soon as you play open D it’s not? That’s what RE-crowning fixes. It’s from all those 2nd fret bends and squeals, but it also happens all over the neck.

After that I calculate how many hundredths, I can remove from all 24 frets to have one even plane, without removing too much fret wire.

Thats when a sharpie and a radius profile block come in. Different radius block for every guitar. I start with self adhesive 220 grit, then 320, then 400, until the frets are one continuous plane.

I reprofile the frets again, lightly, then switch to a special fret end file.

Back to the sharpie, but this time 320, to 400, to 600, to 800, to 1000 grit self adhesive sandpaper.

After that, fret erasers starting with 400 grit, 600, 800, 1200, 2000, 4000, finally 8000 !

One last pass with special fret polish, and the frets look like glass.

I just restored a 37 year old Carvin DC200, and it plays like new. The action is very low without a single buzz anywhere.

minimum of $800 in tools to do it right, lots of time, a massive mess of filings to clean up at every step, all while protecting the guitar. Re-fretting is A lot more expensive tool wise. A good press, with profiled jigs Just for starters. it’s not fun, and it’s very easy to make critical mistakes. I’ve got plenty of practice, and made all my mistakes 25 years ago on cheap guitars.

This!!! ^^^^

However, ...not to say certain steps omitted will not still be acceptable.
 
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Thanks! It's my first Kiesel, got in on a run with a custom paintjob... I think I'm in love with their guitars now.
I’ve been with them since 1982! The guitar from 1982 is a Carvin DC200. Thousands of hours on it, with all original hardware. Not even the input jack went bad. Pots are silent too. The quality is amazing! I’m just ready for a newer model with a flatter radius. My son has an 8 string, but I get lost on it lol. I’ll be picking up a Kiesel Dc600 6 string this time around 😁
 
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