I'm in the same boat. I gig with 3 guitars tuned to E and one tuned to Eb. I tend to use the Axe-Fx display for tuning on stage because I prefer it over the one on the FC-6. Will I need to change the Downtune control when doing a quick tuning check/fix on the Eb guitar between songs?
I now understand what the confusion is. If I understand correctly it's when people are tuning down a half-step and the strings read Eb, Ab, C#, ... that is confusing.
What I've done for the next firmware update, instead, is add a Downtune control. When Downtune is set to, say, 1 semitone, the tuner will read one semitone higher than the actual pitch so tuning to Eb standard the tuner will read E, A, D, ...
Also, when using Downtune the Pitch block and any other blocks that rely on pitch will be offset by the number of semitones.
it's a bit off topic, but again about tuning;
maybe there could be an option for tuning instead A= 440 Hz as standard frequency,
there could be an option A=432 Hz as an alternative frequency and of course the other notes in relation to that
Which is in fact the natural tuning for A, and altered by around 1922
However just my 2 cents, not a big deal but interesting
i voted mixed.
i think you can just choose an offset of -3? i'm assuming Cliff is adding more than just a half step down.Not a fan of having the tuner display a pitch that is not the real pitch. I think the user has to save presets with the guitar tuning in mind, and use that key for pitch block harmonies.
the issue I’ve had with the tuner, is that I tune EAD exactly on pitch, but G 1 cent flat, and B&E 9 cents flat.
And I want that relationship to remain in tact even if I tune the whole guitar down.
So I’d like to have a tuner profile for different guitars.
gtr 1
6-E (0 cents)
5-A (0 cents)
4-D (0 cents)
3-G (-1 cents)
2-B (-9 cents)
1-E (-9 cents)
gtr 2
6-C# (0)
5-F# (0)
4-B (0)
3-E (-1)
2-G#(-9)
1-C#(-9)
as it stands now, when I tune a dropped down guitar, the axe will try to match the pitch it hears, to a guitar string number and then applies the offset. So, in the above example, when I pluck string 5 which I want tuned to F# (0 cents), the axe thinks the closest pitch is a G which it labels string 3, and it applies a -1 cent offset, because that’s what is supposed to happen to string 3. String 4 is a B, and I want string 4 to be tuned 0 cents,but the Axe indicates B on string 2 and applies a -9 cent offset.
Of course. In his case simply set Downtune to 3 semitones. Done.i think you can just choose an offset of -3? i'm assuming Cliff is adding more than just a half step down.
or you can just keep it exactly as it is now.
...For someone that switches actual guitar tunings during a gig, I would think you'd want to leave Downtune off.
Both the Downtune and the choice of incidentals displayed would be an awesome two-fer....I don't switch tunings at gigs, I switch guitars. I'm accustomed to seeing "Eb" on the first and sixth strings when I check the Eb guitar on stage, but seeing C# and F# for the fourth and third strings isn't intuitive to me. I think of those as my Db and Gb strings when I'm dropping everything down half a step. That's why the ideal solution for me would be to have the option to set the tuner readout to show all the accidentals as flats.
That said, I do see the benefit of the Downtune feature for guys using pitch block harmonies with downtuned guitars.
I now understand what the confusion is. If I understand correctly it's when people are tuning down a half-step and the strings read Eb, Ab, C#, ... that is confusing.
What I've done for the next firmware update, instead, is add a Downtune control. When Downtune is set to, say, 1 semitone, the tuner will read one semitone higher than the actual pitch so tuning to Eb standard the tuner will read E, A, D, ...
Also, when using Downtune the Pitch block and any other blocks that rely on pitch will be offset by the number of semitones.
IMO, the tuner should never display anything other than the actual pitch. Having it display an E when tuning to Eb seems like a very poor solution.
I know, I can turn that off and I don't have to use it. Just seems like a recipe for disaster to me.
There's nothing wrong with it the way it is now.
Holy Shite! That kid was unbelievable..I know that Beato Sr. Is a music geek of the highest order....but that display by his son was mind blowing.chords like super-Dylan,
Not a fan of having the tuner display a pitch that is not the real pitch. I think the user has to save presets with the guitar tuning in mind, and use that key for pitch block harmonies.
My personal preference is for the basic accidentals to always show both names.
C#/Db
F#/Gb