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I believe so, yes. Orange 4x12 Celestion V30's shot w/SM57.But are they the same speakers? I would compare IRs of same speaker+mic instead of cab...
I believe so, yes. Orange 4x12 Celestion V30's shot w/SM57.But are they the same speakers? I would compare IRs of same speaker+mic instead of cab...
You make some good points and I understand and agree. I just like testing the waters to see what truly works the best. My band just booked a kickass venue here in town to rent out for a live rehearsal/Live sound test so I will try ALL of these techniques out and let u guys know the verdict.
Try this: take that cab out of the room (outdoors or closed up in a room at the other end of the building you are in) where you can't hear it in the room you are doing the comparison in. Then mic up the cab and run the mic cable to the mixer. Then compare. You have done an apples and oranges comparison. You can't compare the two sounds if that cab itself is within hearing distance of where you are listening and comparing.
Do you want the sound guy to use your back line to optimize the mix for the people standing front-and-center in your amp’s zone of death, and screw the people standing off-axis or further back... or do you want him to optimize the sound for the people standing off axis in front of the bassist, and screw the people standing in front of your amp... or have him optimize the sound for the crowd in back, slicing the ears of the people in front... or...?I get it,sound guys don't want to hear stage sound...but for our band I may start asking sound guys to use it as part of our mix. It was just punchier and more cohesive...
Not if everyone uses Fractal (or some other direct audio source).In a typical live setting (local music venue, bar etc.) you are going to always hear the backline...
Do you want the sound guy to use your back line to optimize the mix for the people standing front-and-center in your amp’s zone of death, and screw the people standing off-axis or further back... or do you want him to optimize the sound for the people standing off axis in front of the bassist, and screw the people standing in front of your amp... or have him optimize the sound for the crowd in back, slicing the ears of the people in front... or...?
I think the best you’ll accomplish is optimizing the sound for the guitarist.
Not if everyone uses Fractal (or some other direct audio source).
But you don't have to...Unless you have no monitors on stage?? I use AXE-FX DI to FOH AND to a poweramp for CABS on stage...
Fair enough... We are 100% direct with IEMs these days, so the only stage volume is the singer and drum sticks whacking plasticWe use IEM, so no we don't HAVE to, but the original idea for the CABS on stage were for the obvious and traditional reasons. They were for the people up front, and so we could feel our sound on stage AND hear em when we/if we want by taking one ear out or whatever
I was having the same problem with my setup until I followed how to use the loop to send 2 feeds (1 to amp and cab and other to FOH). I was then able to set an EQ block on the feed to FOH and model the mic tone. Now I never mic the cab and always go direct.Thats exactly what im doing now for all our gigs, DI to FOH and CAB as a backline. But we A/B'd these two setups the other day and the mic on cab sounded better IMO.