Can't understand it........FW15 has changed the gain stage completely from saturation to jingle jangle indie style
What's wrong with using the front panel?
You didn't get my point. It's not about waiting for more firmware updates before doing the update process, it's the inclusivity of later firmwares. You can't have FW16 without the features (and the requirement to up-down amps) of FW15. Which means no matter if you wait for FW20 or not, you HAVE to up-down your amps if you want a feature of FW16 or 17.Ummm... What? You can load any FW at any time. They don't require loading in sequence. You could wait for FW 20 (that will be seriously amazing!) before you next load FW, and go from 14 straight to 20.
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I figured out that up/downing to the same amp model does not reset gain, level and master. They change when you select a different amp model, but as soon as you come back to the old model, they go back to the memorized values. However, those values WILL reset:OK, so level, mastervolume, gain and presence are the ones getting reset (apart from brightswitches and advanced parameters of course) when changing theampmodel?
Really wanna try out this FW, but a bit reluctant to dive in since I have gigs comming up shortly.
Seems like it changes presets a lot for some, while for others they got better even without tweaking.
What to do...
Anyway, thanks for yet another update from the Fractalteam -We are really getting spoiled here
What has changed drastically in the 5153 Red amp?
That model is virtually unchanged. The low-frequency accuracy was refined but otherwise it's identical and the gain is unchanged.
Come on, if the Chinese with their squinty eyes can read the front panel, then why can't everyone else?
Yes I am aware that the above comment was outrageously racist and offensive, It was said as dramatic sarcasm and in no way was intended to cause any offence whatsoever.
I'm sure another epiphany will happen for v16Oh, not much will change. I'm shocked at how close the models are to the actual amps now. I've compared nearly every amp in my collection (60+ amps) and it's amazing how close the modeling is to the actual amp.
This firmware, for me, finally proves my belief that an amp can be fully modeled at a parametric level given an accurate enough algorithm.
Would you guys wait for them to develop the procedure that automatically does the amp reset for you (maybe 3 months or more) or would you want FW 15 to be released sooner?
Honest question.
Lemme completely clarify that his is solely my hypothetical situation that I made up and not from FAS in any way I'm just curious.
I figured out that up/downing to the same amp model does not reset gain, level and master. They change when you select a different amp model, but as soon as you come back to the old model, they go back to the memorized values. However, those values WILL reset:
- Input Trim (the knob next to input gain)
- CUT, BRT, SAT, FAT
- Presence/Hicut
- Depth
- GEQ
It's only those 4 controls that change when you go to "type" and use the up and down button once.
That is not correct. At least that didn't happen when I did all the up-downing yesterday. Yes, MV, Level and Gain does reset when you select a different amp, but when you go back to the amp you came from, to my surprise the values for MV, Level and Gain are back to where they were before and not defaulted.Last time I checked, selecting another amp type and then the previous one again (I like your term "up/downing amp"), resets all AMP parameters to their default values for that particular model, except:
- Input Drive
- Bass, Middle, Treble
- Level
- Balance
- Input Select
- Voicing
- Pwr Supply Type
- Trem Freq
- Bypass Mode
MV resets to default too, not to the saved value.
That is not correct. At least that didn't happen when I did all the up-downing yesterday. Yes, MV, Level and Gain does reset when you select a different amp, but when you go back to the amp you came from, to my surprise the values for MV, Level and Gain are back to where they were before and not defaulted.
I mean... it's possible that I never used MV values that deviated from the default when I tried yesterday, but it's highly unlikely.
RTFRN
"Fixed wrong Input Drive taper [...] in 5153 Red amp model."
I have a few 5153 Red presets with a Drive setting of approx. 2 in FW14.02. With 15.00b I have to raise the Drive to approx. 4 to get the same result. Could this be due to the new taper?
That is not correct. At least that didn't happen when I did all the up-downing yesterday. Yes, MV, Level and Gain does reset when you select a different amp, but when you go back to the amp you came from, to my surprise the values for MV, Level and Gain are back to where they were before and not defaulted.
I mean... it's possible that I never used MV values that deviated from the default when I tried yesterday, but it's highly unlikely.
Agreed. Something just doesn't feel right and it feels as if it's a general reduction in gain.
That is not correct. At least that didn't happen when I did all the up-downing yesterday. Yes, MV, Level and Gain does reset when you select a different amp, but when you go back to the amp you came from, to my surprise the values for MV, Level and Gain are back to where they were before and not defaulted.
I mean... it's possible that I never used MV values that deviated from the default when I tried yesterday, but it's highly unlikely.