Since FW13 I'm digging the 1987x over the Plexi 100 amp model

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  1. #1 Gamedojo, Feb 25, 2014
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    The 1987x before the most recent firmwares was extremely harsh IMO. I couldn't get a good sound.

    Last night I was just going through all the vintage plexi amp types and comparing and was shocked at the 1987x. especially when you consider it a regular production run marshall. I think I feel it to have far more character and attitude then the vintage plexi amps in the axe fx, and for pure classic rock sound, I may replace all my rock patches with this amp.

    1987x Rocking with Strat
     
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    RAWK!! Yeah, these Vintage Marshall's are sounding 10x better.:encouragement:
     
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    I agree.

    Which CAB did you use?
     
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  4. #4 Gamedojo, Feb 25, 2014
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    Redwirez cabs:

    • G12M R121 Cone 1"
    • G12M SM57 CapEdge Off Axis 0"

    Still waiting to see if Redwirez can produce UltraRes™ versions of his cabs. i really only use Redwirez and a few stock cabs for my stuff.
     
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    The 1987x doesn't have the 0.68uF cap on the last triode. Gives it a smoother distortion.
     
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    Cliff,

    Is having a setting to add, remove or adjust this cap (or others in other amps) something that you could easily do? Just curious. I remember the bright cap being able to be "cut" by turning it down.

    Thanks,

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    Thats interesting. In my personal Marshall builds, I've always liked that .68uf cap for a boost in the mids and gain... especially with strats.


     
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    It's possible. In the model there are triode stages. You can set the Miller capacitance, plate impedance, cathode impedance, etc. Exposing those parameters would be possible but 99% of the users wouldn't understand the values.
     
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    I remember you were studying an interface/software to allow user to built their amps. It could be a nice addiction to your product, even more interesting with XL, where you could add some slots for user amps.
     
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    Sorry Gamedojo for the OT! Great tones there!!! :)
     
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    No no! don't worry. i was an amp builder before moving to the Axe Fx. So i'd love a discussion about further opening the parameters up in the advanced side of things. The tone is in the preamp and having that controllable might really make for some interesting scenarios.
     
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    Nice and chewy.
     
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    How about just a drop down for fixed values? .068, .022 or none for example.

    Roger


     
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    Yes!
     
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    Like this thing isn't addicting enough already. :mrgreen

    (I'm pretty sure Smilzo meant addition, but I got a chuckle out of it.)
     
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    ...such as "Bias Excursion" ;) (I tried to explain it once... -> http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-f...-version-12-04-public-beta-45.html#post984525 )


    PS: Great clip Tyler!!!:D
     
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    Any chance you want to share this preset?
    Thanks
     
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    Nice tone, 1960A G12M or Basketweave G12M20/25?
     
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    G12M Basketweave

     
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    Here you are... nothing really special, honestly.

    1987x G12M patch

     

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