FOH/CAB Patch help......

[Kyle.E.Woyote]

Hey guys, could really use some help and input...

Since I've received the Axe in December I've been been literally up every single night playing and tweaking to a fault till pretty much 2-3 a.m..really. I'll try not to ramble on, which I have a tendency to do.

It has become a frustrating experience dialing in tones (my fault) due to the simple fact I'm at home with crappy headphones while my rig sits at our drummers home (full on soundproof studio) making it difficult to find time to get over there and really sit down with what I mainly intend it for,...downsizing my rig and playing it live.

Being in an 80's Metal Tribute (We play Iron Maiden to Priest, to Ratt,to Whitesnake, etc etc..you get the idea) so that mid-range Marshall style with balls is what I'm targeting...I'm sitting on the HBE at the moment.

Gear (The basic idea) is:

2 Basswood guitars,maple necks (w/Tone Zone/Air Norton) and 1 Swamp Ash, rosewood neck (Stock pickups), power is the return of a Peavey JSX 120 Head, and into a Silver Marshall Jubilee 4x12(if that has any bearing on tone there)

The ultimate setup for me is a FOH/Poweramp+Cab setup (depending on venue size of course) as well as IEM system too.

I've thought of, and trying to plan a tech-day with our sound man to help dial it in, but once again time, setup etc is a pain in the ass to organize (not to mention a good sized location to crank it) Otherwise it has been make patches that I "think" sound killer, to get to reharsal to find out they are a shrilly mess.

So rip it apart, rebuild it (especially those playing live) and repost please!! Tomorrow is practice so I'll be trying the HBE model for the first time in a mix with them, hopefully this one works out.


Many, Many thanks guys if you have time to check 'em 'n crank 'em in a FRFR setting as well as thru a cab maybe too!!!..

I really don't enjoy asking for help, but this has honestly been draining me...

[Funeral]

well, I cant crank it up atm, but at bedroom volume they are sounding pretty good. I will get back to you in the morning after everyone is awake.

[Kyle.E.Woyote]

Thanks Funeral, appreciate it!!

[Funeral]

Well, I just turned it up, LOUD AS HELL, and they both sound good. Great even.
Using the rig in my sig + a guitar with EMG 808's.

[Kyle.E.Woyote]

Hmmmm, interesting..and thank you again for taking the time..

We use an IEM system now live, as well as in rehearsal, so I know the Shure buds I'm using are not the best way to judge/tweak to a listeners perspective, but if it sounds liveable that takes some of my worry having to do "major" tone adjustments gig time..which is a blessing for my panic ridden,ocd nature...lol...

Another thing I was going to mention is, taking a look at the patch is there a way to "wire" up so I can have the Reverb/Delay blocks through my cabinet?

I like the way they sit pre fxl block, but coming out of my cab the dryness is feeling a little "meh" at volume (especially lack of a delay)....

[Paul2916]

I tried the patches tonight (but not at gig volume, that day will come on Friday...) and they sound superb on my rig. Both keepers, definitely. Thank you very much for a great lesson in patch making. I'm just learning Thin Lizzy's version of Bob Seger's 'Rosalie' which will be the first song that I'll be using them on. Cheers!

[Funeral]

Another thing I was going to mention is, taking a look at the patch is there a way to "wire" up so I can have the Reverb/Delay blocks through my cabinet?

I like the way they sit pre fxl block, but coming out of my cab the dryness is feeling a little "meh" at volume (especially lack of a delay)....

I was thinking the same thing last night. Not sure, I will have to look again.

[6strang]

In my experience the Shure IEM's really lack in delivering the sonic quality the Axe delivers. I was using them in church until I got a set of Westone IEM's. MAN! what a difference! Have you thought of trying different IEM's? Great investment in inspiring tone.
Rock on man, patches sound great.

[Kyle.E.Woyote]

Agreed on the ear buds,...initially we all started with PSM200's? and the accompanying buds(horrible)...we've moved to SE425's and 525's?...which was a huuuuge improvement and made playing much more livable for sure.

Thanks on the patches, I can't really take much credit as they are all bits and pieces of existing patches here on the forum, just put into an order that works for me live.....have I said I love this forum?

[mailbox103]

They sound great !!! Good job.